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Old 06-14-2010, 04:16 PM
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You know what? I'm sort of pissed that the 4506 isn't in movies very often. And when it is, it's just about always used by a random thug (except for in Street Kings and Training Day)
Don't forget The Shield.

Since it's discontinued you won't see much of it. The only time you'll see the 4506 is in an LAPD film, you also get to see your favorite gun the Beretta.
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Old 06-14-2010, 04:22 PM
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don't forget the shield.

Since it's discontinued you won't see much of it. The only time you'll see the 4506 is in an lapd film, you also get to see your favorite gun the beretta.
That makes me want to do this: RAAAAGE!
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Old 06-15-2010, 12:02 AM
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Don't forget The Shield.

Since it's discontinued you won't see much of it. The only time you'll see the 4506 is in an LAPD film, you also get to see your favorite gun the Beretta.
That definitely isn't the reason. Look how many movies still use the Beretta 92F, and 2nd Gen Glocks, and German-made SIG 226s/228s. How often do you see those guns used in the real world anymore? Armorers often don't have the most up-to-date weapons in their armories, for reasons that MPM explained.

I think that if nothing else, the 4506 is likely to be rare because armorers tend to use 9mm pistols so often. As Steve has explained elsewhere, the Beretta's popularity is because (1.) it's a 9mm, and (2.) it's one of the most reliable pistols with blank rounds.
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That definitely isn't the reason. Look how many movies still use the Beretta 92F, and 2nd Gen Glocks, and German-made SIG 226s/228s. How often do you see those guns used in the real world anymore? Armorers often don't have the most up-to-date weapons in their armories, for reasons that MPM explained.

I think that if nothing else, the 4506 is likely to be rare because armorers tend to use 9mm pistols so often. As Steve has explained elsewhere, the Beretta's popularity is because (1.) it's a 9mm, and (2.) it's one of the most reliable pistols with blank rounds.
And 3). It looks nice
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And 3). It looks nice
Looked nice, 20 years ago. Now it looks outdated. It still gets used mostly for the two reasons I mentioned.
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Old 06-15-2010, 12:17 AM
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Looked nice, 20 years ago. Now it looks outdated. It still gets used mostly for the two reasons I mentioned.
It's still a nice looking gun. I probably would buy one if it weren't for the whole "too fragile for the Navy SEALs" and "everyone I know who owns/had to carry one hates it"
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It's still a nice looking gun. I probably would buy one if it weren't for the whole "too fragile for the Navy SEALs" and "everyone I know who owns/had to carry one hates it"
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You do know someone who owns a Beretta and likes it, me, and Matt sort of counts as he had a PT92 and liked it too.
...what YNH said. I had a Taurus PT92 that was 20 years old and functioned flawlessly, even with reloaded ammo. I'm curious to know how many people you've talked to that hate Berettas. That's not to say I don't know people who hate the M9, but they tend to be folks who think the military should have never abandoned .45 ACP, so they're discriminating against the Beretta for its caliber, not its design.

Also, I don't know what you're on about with Berettas being "fragile". They're not as durable as Glocks, but they're about as rugged as any all-metal handgun should be. The SEALs ditched the Beretta because its slide retention device was not strong enough to handle higher-pressure ammo than recommended. I don't have a problem with them using SIGs, but I also don't think the Beretta sucks just because it didn't meet a requirement specific to them. After all, what they need isn't necessarily what everyone else needs. (and besides, the 92FS, which replaced the original 92F that the SEALs rejected, has a fixed slide retention device.)

If the Beretta really sucks so much, I doubt it would have passed the XM9 trial (and I should point that one of its competitors was S&W's modified 459).

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...what YNH said. I had a Taurus PT92 that was 20 years old and functioned flawlessly, even with reloaded ammo. I'm curious to know how many people you've talked to that hate Berettas.
About 15-16, which is exactly the number of sevicemen I've talked to about it

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I should point that one of its competitors was S&W's modified 459
The only reason they didn't pick it that I can see is that it doesn't do well in water

We should have went with the SIG though
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It's still a nice looking gun. I probably would buy one if it weren't for the whole "too fragile for the Navy SEALs" and "everyone I know who owns/had to carry one hates it"
I own two, a former police issue 92F and 92FS Inox. Beretta's like any other gun have their haters and lovers. Glocks might have the best records as being tough as nails. But they are the ugliest f*cking gun alive to me. I'll never own one. Also I'm not against "tupperware" guns. I have been looking at XDs pretty hard. But there's a SIG P220 on GB that's caught my eye.
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I own two, a former police issue 92F and 92FS Inox. Beretta's like any other gun have their haters and lovers. Glocks might have the best records as being tough as nails. But they are the ugliest f*cking gun alive to me. I'll never own one. Also I'm not against "tupperware" guns. I have been looking at XDs pretty hard. But there's a SIG P220 on GB that's caught my eye.
Glocks, SIGS and XD's are all good guns, but S&W's have always been my favorite
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