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Is that semiautomatic in the bottom left corner next to the Webley a MAS / MAC mle. 1950 pistol?
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Actually, its a MAS Mle. 1935S, which was the precursor to the MAC Mle. 1950. Major difference is that it's in 7.65 x 20mm Longue instead of 9mm Luger, and has a straight instead of humped grip.
Also, if you want to get really technical, the revolvers on either side of it are Enfield No.2s, not Webleys. The Enfield is of course an unashamed copy of the Webley that the British war department got successfully sued over, but when you examine them closely they're actually quite different in the details. Last edited by Nyles; 07-08-2009 at 11:55 PM. |
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Beautiful collection.
All in all I wonder how much it's worth. |
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Well, strictly talking about the handguns, I've spent about $13,000 on it, not including accessories (holsters, spare mags, etc). In terms of actual value, significantly more. Value is difficult to peg, mainly because some of them are literally too rare to price. They made less than 1000 Webley & Scott 1910s, I'd be shocked if there were more than 500 left after the Brits lost their handguns. I paid $575 for it from a shop that didn't really know what they had, including it's original holster. I'd feel ripped off if I sold for twice that. That and my .455 1911 are probably the two most valuable. If I had to ballpark it, I'd put it at around 20K for the whole collection, more if I broke it up.
By the same token, the Enfield with the bobbed hammer I doubt would go for $200. The 1895 Nagant is not a rare gun, but it was when I bought it - they didn't make it into Canada until years after the States, when someone finally brought them in I had my order in that evening - I was literally the first. Paid $275 and got a good deal, now they sit in the case for months at $250. To get what I paid I'd probably have to throw in the $100 worth of ammo I have for it. Last edited by Nyles; 07-09-2009 at 03:01 AM. |
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Im wondering what the two i circled are. BTW, do you have a pic of your vintage rifles?
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Steyr 1911 Chilean Contract in 9 x 23mm Steyr and my rarest, a Webley & Scott Model 1910 in .38ACP.
Unfortunately I don't have a picture of all my long guns. It's a logistical problem - try taking a picture of 37 rifles and 2 shotguns, I don't have enough room in my house to display them all in one place. Thought of an interesting challenge if anyone's up for it - there are 18 different calibers represented in that picture, anyone think they can name them all? To make it fair, here's a hint - first and foremost, I collect British service pistols, including foreign-made weapons. Last edited by Nyles; 07-09-2009 at 03:08 AM. |
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1> .38 ACP
2> .455 Webley 3> 8 x 22 mm Nambu 4> 9 x 23 mm Steyr 5> 7.62 x 25 mm Tokarev 6> .45 ACP 7> 9 x 19 mm Parabellum 8> 7.65 x 20 mm Longue 9> 7.63 x 25 mm Mauser 10> 8 x 27mm SR 11> .38 Long Colt 12> 10.4mm Italian 13> 8mm Gasser 14> .455 Webley & Scott auto 15> .38 S&W 16> .380 ACP or .32 ACP 17> 18> Last edited by AdAstra2009; 07-11-2009 at 10:37 PM. Reason: fixed spelling |
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That's a Finnish army issued CZ-38 in .380 - very unique gun, it's quite large but it's an unlocked breech .380, has a DAO trigger with an external hammer, heel mag release but no slide lock (and it's a bitch to pull out the mag when it's holding back the slide, let me tell you).
If you press the catch on the left of the frame you can lift the slide right off the frame - the barrel is hinged at the front and stays attached to the pistol and it has a captive mainspring - makes for a half second field strip. Here it is with my Finn Luger.
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Oh, goddamnit, I might have a problem. I still don't have the Sniders, but I came across an offer I couldn't refuse on a Chamelot-Delvigne Mle. 1873. It's registered as a .45, when it's actually an 11mm antique that's exempty from registration, so it'll be a pain in the ass to sort out, but it's also about $500 under the going rate so I'll take the hassle.
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Had a few guns arrive recently:
The Belgian Mauser 1889/16 carbine came after some hassles with the transfer. It's really nice, and as a bonus, it's one of the contract pieces that was made abroad after Liege fell to the Germans in 1914. This is one of the ones made in Birmingham by a factory set up by the Belgian government in exile, they also had contracts with WW Greener and Hopkins & Allen in the US. ![]() ![]() I also got the Sniders - I'm alot less pleased with these, the guy basically committed fraud. He told me they were Canadian marked, and they weren't. they both had several broken or missing parts. The guy had a good feedback rating, but apparently he screwed a few people over on this batch. I ended up taking a few small parts of the action of the rifle (it was completely mismatched anyways) to get the carbine working. So now for $1000 I have a carbine with a broken butt trap and a complete fucked rifle I can hopefully sell as parts without taking too much of a loss. ![]()
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