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[Excalibur]

Originally Posted by Gunmaster45

I too heard he used the PP (he commited suicide with it), but I never heard about him using a Hi-Power.

I believe he was a fan of firearms and weaponry, so it wouldn't surprise me if he had the good taste to use an HP.

But obviously his taste in other things makes him a universal scumbag.

I wouldn't say Hitler was a fan of firearms, but more or less behind in it. When he formed his army, he kept the Mauser 98 rifle and ordered a carbine version of it in service. He didn't like submachine guns. He believed the rifle was the best weapon, but he was easily impressed when the STG-44 or MP44 came about. His orders were so strict, infantry weapons didn't advance much during the war.

Originally Posted by Gunmaster45

I always feel guilty when I hold a nazi gun. It could have been used to kill the good guys!
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Well it's not the weapon that kill people, it's just a tool. Remember that it doesn't kill, but the person holding it. I've seen weapons held by many different people, swords hundreds of years old, held some and I always wonder how many lives this weapon has taken, but you don't admire how many lives were taken by the weapon. You're supposed to admire the craftsmanship, the art of the weapon itself and appreciate that.

[k9870]

Hitler tried to shoot himself, but the gun malfunctioned. The cyanide took him instead.

[Excalibur]

So they tell us. Did you know, it was the Russians that found Hitler and his mistress's body first, and the bodies were also burnt

[RedJedRevolver]

The gunshot actually was succeessful, but it is undetermined if that killed him or if the cyanide killed him. This is because not all headshot deaths are instinanious.

[Gunmaster45]

Originally Posted by Excalibur

Well it's not the weapon that kill people, it's just a tool. Remember that it doesn't kill, but the person holding it. I've seen weapons held by many different people, swords hundreds of years old, held some and I always wonder how many lives this weapon has taken, but you don't admire how many lives were taken by the weapon. You're supposed to admire the craftsmanship, the art of the weapon itself and appreciate that.

I always admire the craftsmanship and the work put into a gun or other weapon, but whether or not it has killed someone is still something to ponder.

Tool or not, I'd still feel strange knowning the Walther P38 I'm holding was used to gun down a Jewish family in Auschwitz in cold blood. Hopefully you understand what I mean.

I despise guns in the hands of criminals. They use them for bad things and make them look bad. Basically, a criminal ("bad guy") used this gun for bad things. Imagine holding the TEC-DC9 Mini used by Harris during the Columbine shooting. Would you admire the craftsmanship or hate knowing what it was used for?

[Excalibur]

Personally I think the Tec-DC9 guns are pieces of crap. They weren't even full auto in the shooting. I see no advantages to an ugly gun like the Tec-DC9 or any variant of it. Uzi, Mac-10s, they have a charm to them. A legendary feel about them. But Tec 9s...they look like shit.

People love the AK47 models, but when you hold one up do you think about the thousands to millions killed in Africa from Civil wars? Or the AK47 used to represent the arm of Communism? No, you see an awesome robust weapon that will never fail you, not "the true weapon of mass destruction"

[Gunmaster45]

I see both depending on how long I handle the weapon.

[Nyles]

Got my French Mle. 1892 revolver today, made in 1892 by St. Etienne - little pitted, but mechanically perfect, espescially for a 117-year old gun. The Mle. 1892 in 8mm Lebel revolver was France's sidearm through WW1 and in limited use in WW2. It's a swing out cylinder revolver, except the cylinder swings to the right. This is because it was designed for cavalry troopers, and in 1892 they were expected to shoot with their left hand while using their sabre with their right. Except for being a little underpowered, it worked great and was extremely reliable.



Also, I took the opportunity to snap a picture of my entire handgun collection. Unfortunately it didn't turn out perfectly crisp, but I'm not going back to lay them out again.

[AdAstra2009]

Originally Posted by Nyles

Is that semiautomatic in the bottom left corner next to the Webley a MAS / MAC mle. 1950 pistol?

[Nyles]

Actually, its a MAS Mle. 1935S, which was the precursor to the MAC Mle. 1950. Major difference is that it's in 7.65 x 20mm Longue instead of 9mm Luger, and has a straight instead of humped grip.

Also, if you want to get really technical, the revolvers on either side of it are Enfield No.2s, not Webleys. The Enfield is of course an unashamed copy of the Webley that the British war department got successfully sued over, but when you examine them closely they're actually quite different in the details.