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Old 06-19-2011, 01:53 PM
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I hate the standard 6 position m4 style stock on everything...even m4s. A magpul or Vltor type has superior cheek weld and same function. but ive heard those blackhawks do suck, they just look cool i guess...
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:30 AM
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Sootch likes everything pretty much and his reviews aren't as detailed as other people's sometimes, but I'm still one of his subscribers cause he seems like a good dude and his reviews do get me to look at new products (I got drunk on M12 holsters).

And I guess you can throw up the ever convenient "to each his own" flag, but for a Mossberg especially with the safety issue, or any 12 gauge hard kicking shotgun, I don't see a practical justification for placing one on if it has moving parts and the potential to break. I mean it's a shotgun stock, how can you mess up a shotgun stock?
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Old 06-20-2011, 03:09 PM
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I hate the standard 6 position m4 style stock on everything...even m4s. A magpul or Vltor type has superior cheek weld and same function. but ive heard those blackhawks do suck, they just look cool i guess...
I don't think the LE stock is that bad or uncomfortable (my AR still has one, which I have yet to replace), though I admit that there are superior options available. The only thing I find annoying about putting M4 stocks on guns that aren't M4s is that most people who do that are trying too hard to make their weapons look "tacticool".
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In the old Mossberg vs Remington debates, one of the pro-Mossberg points was the location of the safety. But it's a bit out of the way if you have a pistol grip on, is it not?
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Old 06-20-2011, 03:54 PM
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I already made that point, but I don't think he wants to acknowledge it. I think he's doing it solely for tacticoolness as Matt described, but in a way there's nothing tactical about it.
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The only reason why I want the Blackhawk one is the recoil compensation on it. It's not that bad. If I get a full stock, all I'd get is unmitigated recoil. Sure the Blackhawk stock won't get rid of all the recoil, but it'll help.
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Old 06-20-2011, 11:55 PM
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Do you know what will help more? A 20 doallar limbsaver or pachmayr recoil pad.
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Old 06-21-2011, 12:37 AM
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Dunno if that will help more, but yeah a buttpad would be cheaper and probably more functional. It won't "reduce recoil" persay, but it will absorb some of the shock, and do it without a buncha springs and plastic that could possibly snap. If you were to get the standard Mossberg stock, you could utilize the safety efficiently still, and even with a buttpad you'd be well under the price for the Blackhawk, and that money could go toward ammo for shooting and perhaps some more buckshot for defense.
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Old 06-21-2011, 01:21 AM
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When i put on a limbsaver, difference was night and day, pleasant with limbsaver, annoying with the rock hard remington pad.
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Old 06-21-2011, 02:55 AM
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The Remington stock pad is pretty stiff for rubber, and my shoulder did get a little stiff after pretty limited shooting, but it wasn't shoulder-breakingly bad. I've entertained the notion of buying one of their R3 recoil pads to see if its any better, but my shotgun shooting and customization has taken a back seat to saving up for more guns.
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