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06-19-2011, 06:55 AM
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After watching Nutnfancy's review on the Blackhawk collapsible stock, I don't feel confident with it, nor did I beforehand. A collapsing stock on something as hard kicking as a 12 Gauge shotgun sounds like a bad idea, and for the Mossberg's safety placement, it's also counter-intuitive, as now the safety on the rear of the receiver is that much harder to reach with a lower grip and a stock in between the hand and the safety. I find that pistol grip stocks handle and feel better, but Mossberg has sort of dug its own grave with that particular battery of arms. A standard Mossberg semipistolgrip stock, I think, works best with all things considered.
Nutnfancy's review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I41htjbudh4 
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06-19-2011, 01:17 PM
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I would trust Safe Arms. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhz6h...eature=related Whether it works or not, I think an M4 style stock looks fugly on anything unless it's an AR.
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06-19-2011, 01:49 PM
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I do plan to get rid of the light or at least move it so I can mount it forward. When I turn it on, it's off center obviously.
And I like M4 style stocks on a shotgun. I've seen other reviews of the Blawkhawk recoil compensation type and they seem ok with it. So to each his own.
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06-19-2011, 01:53 PM
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I hate the standard 6 position m4 style stock on everything...even m4s. A magpul or Vltor type has superior cheek weld and same function. but ive heard those blackhawks do suck, they just look cool i guess...
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06-20-2011, 12:30 AM
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Sootch likes everything pretty much and his reviews aren't as detailed as other people's sometimes, but I'm still one of his subscribers cause he seems like a good dude and his reviews do get me to look at new products (I got drunk on M12 holsters).
And I guess you can throw up the ever convenient "to each his own" flag, but for a Mossberg especially with the safety issue, or any 12 gauge hard kicking shotgun, I don't see a practical justification for placing one on if it has moving parts and the potential to break. I mean it's a shotgun stock, how can you mess up a shotgun stock?
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06-20-2011, 03:09 PM
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06-20-2011, 03:42 PM
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In the old Mossberg vs Remington debates, one of the pro-Mossberg points was the location of the safety. But it's a bit out of the way if you have a pistol grip on, is it not?
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06-20-2011, 03:54 PM
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I already made that point, but I don't think he wants to acknowledge it. I think he's doing it solely for tacticoolness as Matt described, but in a way there's nothing tactical about it.
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06-20-2011, 11:33 PM
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The only reason why I want the Blackhawk one is the recoil compensation on it. It's not that bad. If I get a full stock, all I'd get is unmitigated recoil. Sure the Blackhawk stock won't get rid of all the recoil, but it'll help.
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