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[BurtReynoldsMoustache]

Originally Posted by funkychinaman

It'd sort of be like putting the Thompson, the Reising, and the M3 on the same page, because they're all American and in .45 ACP. From the bit of research I did, the PPD is based on the the MP28, and the PPSh and the PPS were designed by different guys. It's true, one is more simplified than the other, but not necessarily based on one another. According to the Modern Firearms page, the 35 round mags from the PPSh and the PPS aren't even compatible with one another.

It's not like that at all. The Tommy gun is an open bolt delayed blowback, the Reising is a closed bolt delayed blowback, and the M3 is a simple blowback.

I always thought the PPS was a simplified PPSh which was a simplified PPD. And if the PPD is so similar to the MP28, should it be on the MP28 page?

[funkychinaman]

Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache

It's not like that at all. The Tommy gun is an open bolt delayed blowback, the Reising is a closed bolt delayed blowback, and the M3 is a simple blowback.

Well, yes. I was citing it as an absurd example.

Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache

I always thought the PPS was a simplified PPSh which was a simplified PPD. And if the PPD is so similar to the MP28, should it be on the MP28 page?

If we're worried about too many pages, we can consolidate the MP18/MP28/Lanchester/PPD-40 onto one page. Neither of them are that big.

[MoviePropMaster2008]

Originally Posted by funkychinaman

If we're worried about too many pages, we can consolidate the MP18/MP28/Lanchester/PPD-40 onto one page. Neither of them are that big.

Uh, no. And don't start being like POI (or as I like to call him POS). That suggestion is again.. RIDICULOUS.

Who said we were worried about too many gun pages? You're creating a controversy out of nothing. And if we were to remove gun pages (I would LOVE to eliminate all video games and the weapons that only appear (in real life) in the mind of a video game programmer, like those prototype Russian or Chinese weapons, whom NO ONE has ever seen in a real movie, handled by HUMAN BEINGS.

[BurtReynoldsMoustache]

I don't know about the PPD but shouldn't the MP18 and the MP28 be on the same page?

[funkychinaman]

Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008

Uh, no. And don't start being like POI (or as I like to call him POS). That suggestion is again.. RIDICULOUS.

Who said we were worried about too many gun pages? You're creating a controversy out of nothing. And if we were to remove gun pages (I would LOVE to eliminate all video games and the weapons that only appear (in real life) in the mind of a video game programmer, like those prototype Russian or Chinese weapons, whom NO ONE has ever seen in a real movie, handled by HUMAN BEINGS.

Hey now, let's not get nasty. I just thought I was getting a vibe about not having too many pages period.

[MoviePropMaster2008]

Originally Posted by funkychinaman

Hey now, let's not get nasty. I just thought I was getting a vibe about not having too many pages period.

Sounding like PersonOfInterest will never turn out well...... Now as too the vibe about too many pages, that's Too many lame or STUPID pages. That is the vibe that everyone should be getting. Now if a gun deserves its' own page, and that it has unfairly been lumped into a lineage that is not really its' own, then yes. But also be aware that some lines of guns are still obscure and to split them up will just create MORE pages that users will have to track/hunt down in order to find.......Why do you think we lump ALL M1911s regardless of maker onto the M1911 page?

[Zulu Two Six]

I think it's time for a thread lock, before this gets outta hand

[BurtReynoldsMoustache]

Originally Posted by Zulu Two Six

I think it's time for a thread lock, before this gets outta hand

This is a valid topic for discussion and I don't see what MPM is getting worried over. He told funky not to change the page and he didn't change the page. Other people may want to weigh in on this and other pages. I personally think the S&W pistol pages are a bit too spread out, especially considering the massive lumps that are the Glock, AK-47, and M16 pages (which all look wonderful).

[funkychinaman]

Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008

Sounding like PersonOfInterest will never turn out well...... Now as too the vibe about too many pages, that's Too many lame or STUPID pages. That is the vibe that everyone should be getting. Now if a gun deserves its' own page, and that it has unfairly been lumped into a lineage that is not really its' own, then yes. But also be aware that some lines of guns are still obscure and to split them up will just create MORE pages that users will have to track/hunt down in order to find.......Why do you think we lump ALL M1911s regardless of maker onto the M1911 page?

In the limited context regarding the PPSh-41 and the PPS-43, I believe the lack of lineage and their potential page sizes would warrant separate pages for both. (The K-50M is there as well, as it should be, as it's developed from the PPSh, but the description appears to have been cut and paste from the Modern Firearms page.)