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Old 10-11-2010, 05:43 PM
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Haven't talked to enough people who own them. But every time I look at the Handguns section of Armslist, or the Classifieds on other gun boards I visit, it seems as though there are a lot of people trying to sell or trade M&Ps. When I was trying to sell my 4506, I had four guys who made me trade offers on TFL. Guess what two of them wanted to trade? M&Ps.

What I figure this means is that the M&P is really, REALLY popular and there are just lots floating around (like 1911s and Glocks), or people who buy them tend to hate them and try to sell them quickly. And I'm guessing the latter reason is why, because I haven't seen anyone shooting an M&P at my range yet. Of course, that's still an anecdote.

I've met quite a few people who have owned them and the general consensus is that it isn't that great. My cousin's father bought 3 (one for him, one for his wife and one for my cousin) after he sold a handful of Rugers he bought but didn't like. After owning them for a while (few months) he sold them, bought him and his wife a used Glock each and got my cousin an old Ruger revolver
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Old 10-12-2010, 12:39 AM
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First gen glocks had problems with firing pin force, and some of the new forth gens are having problems with weak recoil springs.
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Old 10-13-2010, 02:33 AM
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Well back on the original topic.
I was looking at the unit page and noticed a couple of things.

- A couple of "Regular Army" soldiers have their helmet covers on backwards.

- No IR Tabs or IR Tab covers

-"Americal" 23rd Infantry Division Patch patch
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Old 10-13-2010, 02:52 AM
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Well back on the original topic.
I was looking at the unit page and noticed a couple of things.

- A couple of "Regular Army" soldiers have their helmet covers on backwards.

- No IR Tabs or IR Tab covers

-"Americal" 23rd Infantry Division Patch patch
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Old 10-13-2010, 03:08 AM
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Guns in ankle holsters that are way to big to be in an ankle holster. Example: In that resident evil movie where somebody pulled a glock 17 out, and countless movies where you think "well, that gun is able to be carried but would be too unconfortable to do everyday"
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Old 10-13-2010, 05:25 PM
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Just saw a guy pull a glock 19 or 17 out of a boot on burn notice, like an ankle is a carry place
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Old 10-23-2010, 07:35 PM
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Just saw a guy pull a glock 19 or 17 out of a boot on burn notice, like an ankle is a carry place
I have an ankle holster for my Glock 26. I've carried the G26 exactly twice that way. The last time was almost three years ago. No way do I want to do that again. My S&W Model 49 and my Colt Detective Special are the only handguns that I carry on a consistent basis in an ankle holster.
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Old 10-14-2010, 02:01 AM
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Well back on the original topic.
I was looking at the unit page and noticed a couple of things.

- A couple of "Regular Army" soldiers have their helmet covers on backwards.

- No IR Tabs or IR Tab covers

-"Americal" 23rd Infantry Division Patch patch
There's also the episode where the French UN soldiers are wearing British (or Dutch-style) DPM uniforms.
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First gen glocks had problems with firing pin force, and some of the new forth gens are having problems with weak recoil springs.
The 1st Gens also weren't very common in the U.S., either in private or LE/govt. hands. Most of the PDs and agencies that adopted Glocks didn't start buying them until around the time of the 2nd Gen models.

Regarding the M&P, it might still evolve into a good pistol, depending on whatever changes S&W makes. But in today's market, it needs to be stellar and flawless, and it doesn't appear to be so. And it's hard to give it the benefit of the doubt because, unlike Glocks in the 1980s, it isn't a new and innovative design.
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The 1st Gens also weren't very common in the U.S., either in private or LE/govt. hands. Most of the PDs and agencies that adopted Glocks didn't start buying them until around the time of the 2nd Gen models.

Regarding the M&P, it might still evolve into a good pistol, depending on whatever changes S&W makes. But in today's market, it needs to be stellar and flawless, and it doesn't appear to be so. And it's hard to give it the benefit of the doubt because, unlike Glocks in the 1980s, it isn't a new and innovative design.
To be fair to the M&P. It might not be new and innovative tech, but it is based on the current tested design.
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