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02-16-2010, 02:25 PM
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On the Beretta 92/96 still being carried by the police. Our police and sheriff departments carried them for about 10 to 15 years. In the past year or two, I've started to see Glocks on their hips. The Beretta's I'm pretty sure were 9mm, I don't know about the Glocks. Some of our State Troopers carried Beretta's also. 
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02-16-2010, 04:05 PM
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10mm will have to be hand loaded to exceed .357 mag, most factory ammo is somewhat downsized, and when yo play with crazy ass reloads you need to test pistol function, change springs, etc.
Ive seen when the smith and wesson 10mm/40 smith revovler has been loaded to rediculous levels and exceeds most .357s. So 10 mil will be near a .357 and has good penetration for bear defense, but theres a lot of factors to look into.
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02-16-2010, 04:09 PM
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As for glocks, well, unconfortable grips (finger grooves narrower than my fingers) and weird grip angle, doesnt point naturally, and poor trigger, Police get them because there reliable enough (glock reliability is horribly inflated though, they can and will jam if treated bad.) and simple so less time is needed training. There also cheap for the budget types. Problem also is many are too light for the caliber, like the .40 smith versions. If i get a .40 i want it to weigh more than 22-23 ounces for recoil control. There hyped, overrated and not a good shooting gun.
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02-16-2010, 05:09 PM
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You know, I'd put my life on a Glock. They aren't bad guns. All guns do jam if not treated properly. And I don't find the grip or the trigger to be much of a problem to me
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02-16-2010, 05:18 PM
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But I'd take a Springfield XD over the Glock. It feels better, the grip is based on the angle and grip of the 1911, the trigger feels better and better reliability.
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02-16-2010, 09:56 PM
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Also if it has a trigger that's better than a Berettas, more power to ya. 3rd gen Smith autos tend to have pretty bad triggers compared to Berettas and SIGs, but the 4505 might be an exception as it was an early model and wasn't mass produced (or at least not as much so as the 4506 or 5906). I also read that the Novak sighted 4505 is the rarest configuration of the gun, so again you have another reason to be proud of it. Last edited by Yournamehere; 02-16-2010 at 11:55 PM.
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02-16-2010, 10:33 PM
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1911 weights are tricky. Many manufacturers post weight without mag, and things like a skeltonized hammer and thinner grips can strip off ounces quick. Then if you have higher profile combat sights, made of metal, well, they add a couple ounces. But this is a duty gun for open carry on a holster belt, i dont care if its 37 ounces or 43 ounces. Theres better places to save weight than a gun, a heavy gun shoots better. Start by switching a leather duty belt to nylon or other tough material and get a lighter flashlight, a maglights too heavy.
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02-16-2010, 10:56 PM
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How heavy was the hammer on your old S&W? Mine is fairly light which may be making the trigger pull better. I haven't shot it yet, I don't want to be getting light primer strikes. Last edited by predator20; 02-16-2010 at 10:59 PM.
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