Weapons in the Red Dawn Remake

[MT2008]

Anyway, let's get back on topic to talking about the movie...

The main thing I'm curious about is what sorts of "Red" military hardware (besides small arms) we're going to see in the remake. As I'm sure y'all remember, the original film featured excellent mock-ups of Mi-24 Hinds, T-72s, BMPs, and ZSU-23/4s. Of course, now that the Cold War is over and ex-Eastern Bloc hardware has been purchased by some of the movie vehicle rental companies, it'll be interesting to see what they put in this movie. I'm expecting T-72s mocked up as T-90s, as I expect that would be an easy vismod.

[AdAstra2009]

Originally Posted by MT2008

I'm expecting T-72s mocked up as T-90s, as I expect that would be an easy vismod.

your talking about the Russians, right.

The PLA's Main Battle Tanks are the Type 99 & Type 96

Type 99>

Type 96>


The behind the scenes shots showed an M1 Abrams....but it didn't look very mocked up.

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by AdAstra2009

your talking about the Russians, right.

Yeah, for the Russians.

Originally Posted by AdAstra2009

The behind the scenes shots showed an M1 Abrams....but it didn't look very mocked up.

That's one of the mock-up M1s built from a Centurion. And that's kind of weird. Maybe we're supposed to assume that they captured our own equipment and re-painted it for their own use?

[AdAstra2009]

Must be, on this HMMWV they just put the Chinese insignia over the American Flag

[predator20]

Most likely done to keep the budget down. Not a bad way to save money rather than have mock-ups.

I still can't believe they're remaking the film.

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by predator20

Most likely done to keep the budget down. Not a bad way to save money rather than have mock-ups.

I still can't believe they're remaking the film.

Makes two of us. As I've said, the original should be left as-is. A remake nowadays is absurd.

Anyway, there are already lots of T-55s, T-62s, T-72s, BMPs, etc. available from American military vehicle rental companies. I realize that the Chinese don't use these, but the Russians would use the T-72s at least (which could be made to look like T-90s pretty easily, I should think).

[Excalibur]

So is this remake supposed to take place in the NOW?

[Markit]

Originally Posted by MT2008

Makes two of us. As I've said, the original should be left as-is. A remake nowadays is absurd.

Anyway, there are already lots of T-55s, T-62s, T-72s, BMPs, etc. available from American military vehicle rental companies. I realize that the Chinese don't use these, but the Russians would use the T-72s at least (which could be made to look like T-90s pretty easily, I should think).

IIRC, there are no actual T-72s or BMPs available from movie prop companies in the United States (though there are in Europe). Army Trucks Inc, which is one of the most popular vehicle rental companies for big-budget hollywood movies, does have T-55 tanks though.

[Spartan198]

Originally Posted by MT2008

Yeah, for the Russians.



That's one of the mock-up M1s built from a Centurion. And that's kind of weird. Maybe we're supposed to assume that they captured our own equipment and re-painted it for their own use?

That's a pretty convincing mock-up. How can you tell it's a Centurion?

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by Spartan198

That's a pretty convincing mock-up. How can you tell it's a Centurion?

First, here's a better picture of it on the set of the movie:



See how the undercarriage only six wheels per side? An M1 Abrams has seven. You can also see that it's a little too narrow, and that the engine compartment is a bit taller than a real M1. If you look really closely, you can also see some of the gaps in the turret where the metal plating was welded onto the Centurion's turret.

These mock-up M1s were built originally for the movie "Courage Under Fire". Any movie you've ever seen with an M1 Abrams features these tanks, because in real life, filmmakers can't get access to real M1s unless they get DoD cooperation. So far, "War of the Worlds" and "Transformers 2" are the only movies that have featured real M1s (since the military did cooperate on both). All other movies with M1s use the mocked-up Centurions.

Also, you can see more pics of the tanks at Army Trucks, Inc.'s web site, here:

http://www.armytrucks.com/Tanks_Armored.html