"Fake" ACOGs

MT2008 · #1 10-01-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008

Great information. Good to know, thanks.

But FYI: 99% of the optics in Movie armory inventory are REPLICAs. Why spend the $$ on good optics (and they are really expensive) for something no one will sight through and all actors/stuntmen will just bang around.

I was handling the UMPs and other weapons from the movie IRONMAN and poking around the optics and asked Mike Papac (from Cinema Weaponry) "Are any of these real?" and he said "No, they're all Airsoft fakes".

Rule of thumb, if there is a decent (even a not so decent) replica of the optic, red dot, NV, etc. available, the armorers will use THAT rather than spend the outrageous sums of money for the real deal and risk having some idiot actor break it.

I've been told by one other armorer that they do keep some real ACOGs, Holosights, and other such optics in rental inventory, and that they do get used in movies and TV shows. However, he confirmed that this is quite rare - usually only for extreme close-ups of the gun, and never in any circumstances where they expect lots of stunts and opportunities for the guns/optics to get banged around. As you've said, probably 99% of the time, the optics are the airsoft replicas.

EDIT: I just read the email again. He said that the main reason they stock the real optics is actually for the benefit of video game developers who want to study how they work so that they can model them correctly in the game.

MoviePropMaster2008 · #2 10-01-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MT2008

EDIT: I just read the email again. He said that the main reason they stock the real optics is actually for the benefit of video game developers who want to study how they work so that they can model them correctly in the game.

Which pretty much proves that you'll never see a REAL (read expensive one) being thrown down the hallway by Daniel Craig ... ever. In fact if they are used for game development and study, they WON'T be seen in a movie or tv show ... EVER. One could not risk the optics being messed up if animators are trying to replicate the scope's abilities and reticle. Sure the real things are built for combat, but ACTORS are like the Samsonite Gorilla. They can break anything.

Spartan198 · #3 10-02-2009, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008

Sure the real things are built for combat, but ACTORS are like the Samsonite Gorilla. They can break anything.

Maybe the military should hire some of these actors to torture test for them?

MT2008 · #4 10-02-2009, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008

Which pretty much proves that you'll never see a REAL (read expensive one) being thrown down the hallway by Daniel Craig ... ever. In fact if they are used for game development and study, they WON'T be seen in a movie or tv show ... EVER. One could not risk the optics being messed up if animators are trying to replicate the scope's abilities and reticle. Sure the real things are built for combat, but ACTORS are like the Samsonite Gorilla. They can break anything.

Oh, I don't disagree with you that it makes zero sense to ever give an optic to an actor, and I'm sure it's pretty much never done. But I do know at least one armory has some real optics in inventory.

gunguy001 · #5 10-27-2009, 12:42 AM

As an armourer, I can tell you that 99.9% of the stuff we use are fake and yes actors do break things that can survive the elements of space just by touching it.

Excalibur · #6 10-27-2009, 06:47 PM

So what movies have you done?

MT2008 · #7 10-30-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur

So what movies have you done?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1214249/

gunguy001 · #8 10-31-2009, 11:48 PM

Resident Evil 4, a untitled Spielberg and a few more......

MT2008 · #9 11-23-2009, 08:30 PM

BTW, if GuitarCrazyo (or whatever his name is) happens to be a spambot, that would be weird. He sure doesn't sound like any of the others I've seen (and slain). Since he hasn't posted in a while, should we ban him to be on the safe side?

Spartan198 · #10 11-24-2009, 01:05 AM

I use this site when new members register at my site to see if they've spammed before and been reported. Basically you just put in their username, email address, or IP address (or all), and click search.

http://www.stopforumspam.com/

I just searched "GuitarCrazyo" and 19 entries came back. So, yes, he is a spammer and I vote banhammer.