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08-03-2009, 08:48 PM
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When did Winchester go out of business? I though they still made guns?
Anyway, I think Colt still makes guns that aren't cheap pieces of crap. Let's just hope that they continue like that. 
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08-03-2009, 08:51 PM
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No, I believe they closed shop quite a few years ago.
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08-03-2009, 09:11 PM
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Winchester and Colt both have websites where they advertise their products and have MSRPs. I don't think they are out of business.
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08-03-2009, 09:12 PM
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Hey, i never said Colt went out of business.
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08-03-2009, 09:21 PM
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Winchester went out of business in 1980. The US Repeating Firearms Co made guns under the Winchester name from 1981-2006. In 2008 Browning took up the mantle and now Model 70s are being made at the FN-USA plant. Colt's been in business since 1847, but they've been pretty much marginalized since the 80s due to some very bad business decisions.
Last edited by Nyles; 08-03-2009 at 09:24 PM.
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08-03-2009, 10:03 PM
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Ruger is improving which stands out. Under Bill ruger they were sucking up to liberals and not caring much about the customer. He even supported clinton ban. Now ruger makes Ar-15s and fsactory 20 rounders for mini 14s, the LCP is the best selling handgun in america, and who knows, maybe theyll even make accurate bolt guns soon.
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08-03-2009, 10:38 PM
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I'm kind of intrigued by the new LCR they're selling. I want to check it out and see if it's any good. I like to be able to disassemble my guns to clean them, and the simpley built revolver seems good for this.
And 1847? Do you mean 1947 or has Colt been in limbo for 160 years?
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08-03-2009, 11:02 PM
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No, I mean 1847. Colt's never been sold or went out of business, they also never kept up with the times. They gave up on commercial innovation in the70s, and decided to subsist on military contracts. And then the US military went to the Beretta, the Minimi and the MAG, and now the only military contract Colt has is for the M4 - even the M16A4 is made by FN-USA. They completely missed the wondernine craze (their only attempt was the Colt 2000, which was a disaster), and then stopped making double-action revolvers right when concealed carry took off and snubbies were suddenly relevant again.
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08-08-2009, 04:11 AM
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I disagree. Pretty much any expensive European pistol Ive used is of top notch quality. But thats only the expensive ones like Glock, Sig and HK. But your right. Older model guns are a lot crappier than they where when they first came out.
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