Gun purchases thread.

[MT2008]

So, after many years of searching, I finally traded my S&W 4506-1 for a USP 9mm just yesterday. I realize that some S&W fans on IMFDB will likely regard what I did as tantamount to high treason, but I always wanted an original 9mm USP (it's the only H und K that I ever care to own), and the 4506 was always just too big for me.

My USP is a pretty old one, too, with date code "KE" (1994) and no polygonal rifling in the barrel. I regard it as an acquisition that is consistent with my tendency to collect 1980s/1990s Wonder Nines that were common in the movies of my youth.

[Jcordell]

Originally Posted by MT2008

So, after many years of searching, I finally traded my S&W 4506-1 for a USP 9mm just yesterday. I realize that some S&W fans on IMFDB will likely regard what I did as tantamount to high treason, but I always wanted an original 9mm USP (it's the only H und K that I ever care to own), and the 4506 was always just too big for me.

My USP is a pretty old one, too, with date code "KE" (1994) and no polygonal rifling in the barrel. I regard it as an acquisition that is consistent with my tendency to collect 1980s/1990s Wonder Nines that were common in the movies of my youth.

YOU LOUSY TRAITOR! HOW DARE YOU TRADE IN THAT 4506-1 FOR A PIECE OF GERMAN GARBAGE!







Good trade. I understand. You knew that somebody was going to go through that opening that you left. I felt obligated.

[S&Wshooter]

You've traded an overbuilt gun with $50 mags for another overbuilt gun with $50 mags. Too bad it wasn't a USP45, so you could still convert to .45 Super on a whim

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by S&Wshooter

You've traded an overbuilt gun with $50 mags for another overbuilt gun with $50 mags. Too bad it wasn't a USP45, so you could still convert to .45 Super on a whim

I realize we haven't talked much in years, but I always thought you were a fan of the 4506? Don't deny that mags for the 4506 are expensive, but I never regarded any of Smith's 3rd Gen semi-autos as "overbuilt" (which, ironically, is the one problem I do have with H&Ks).

It's funny you mention the USP 45: I actually bought a USP 45 over two years ago, which is the first H&K I owned (though due to my inactivity on the forum in the past few years, I don't think I ever posted about it on here). I wound up trading it for my Glock 34 (which I still own) about six months later. The USP 45 was a bit too big for me, unfortunately, which is I guess a problem that I have with most .45s.

Right now, my pistol collection is as follows:

- SIG P226
- Beretta 92FS INOX
- Glock 17 Gen 2
- Glock 26 Gen 3
- Glock 34 Gen 3
- H&K USP-9
- Ruger Mark II
- Colt Vest Pocket .25 ACP
- Taurus Titanium .38

[Excalibur]

I've always wanted to just own one of the older S&W autos. They feel really good in the hand but I've never been a fan of DA/SA guns for carry. I just don't shoot well with them.

[S&Wshooter]

Originally Posted by MT2008

but I never regarded any of Smith's 3rd Gen semi-autos as "overbuilt" (which, ironically, is the one problem I do have with H&Ks).

The 4506-1 has more to do with the 10mm 3rd gens (designed for a steady diet of full power 10mm, the kind that caused extremely accelerated wear on its main competitor, the Colt Delta Elite) than it does the base 4506. Kind of overkill for .45 ACP, although it does make the gun very controllable and soft shooting. Even the later, black followered, mags are super heavy duty, definitely meant to last; compared to slightly older base model 4506 and 645 mags (already quite stout and well made, on par with really good 1911 mags) their springs and mag bodies are just a little better. The 9mm 3rd gens are built more like the .40 offerings of other companies than their comparable 9mms, and are definitely beefed up compared to 1st & 2nd gen autos, which are already pretty tough (not the finishes, though, that glossy black goes QUICK)

I'm basing this off my experiences owning guns from all 3 gens, which are as follows
1st gen: 39-2
2nd gen: 459, 645
3rd gen: 4506-1, 6906, 915

[StanTheMan]

Originally Posted by Jcordell

YOU LOUSY TRAITOR! HOW DARE YOU TRADE IN THAT 4506-1 FOR A PIECE OF GERMAN GARBAGE!

Seconded.. MT, how could you??

Good trade. I understand. You knew that somebody was going to go through that opening that you left. I felt obligated.

Eh, seconded on this too. That and you still have the SIG, so, I can forgive this slip up. An aside, your INOX is one of the older Italian-made ones, right?

I do hear ya about the '06.. it does look rather big. I'm been a bit more partial to the 4566 for that reason. That said, just like Excalibur would love to own a 3rd gen S&W auto. They also feel good. That said, like him it'd admittedly be a range toy though. BTW Ex, the AR build is pretty nice. Definitely cleaner than some ARs I've seen.

Also, good find on the 3" GP, JCordell. Man I do love some 3" (or so) revolvers. The S&W M66 re-release in the shorter version has definitely caught my eye.

[Excalibur]

Speaking of which, at my local store, they marked down another S&W auto, a 406. Giving it away at just under 300 bucks

[S&Wshooter]

Originally Posted by Excalibur

Speaking of which, at my local store, they marked down another S&W auto, a 406. Giving it away at just under 300 bucks

The 4006 used to be hands down the most common S&W auto in my area, because tons and tons of police officers, especially HPD, carried them in the 90's and earlier 00's. Once XD's and M&P's got on the market, a bunch showed up on the used market, usually around $350 with mags, but they were gone within a few years.


Thinking of S&W, I'm looking at the Chief's Special 9mm as my next carry gun and may trade my mother my LCP for her old 642. She's probably getting her LTC, and she doesn't really like shooting the airweight, going to let her try the LCP out to see if she'd prefer it

EDIT: geez, just looked at how the recoil spring is set up on the CS series, might just go 3913. Would probably shoot it better anyways

[Excalibur]

I've been thinking of getting the new M&P 2.0 Compact to replace my carry gun.