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Old 11-08-2013, 12:57 AM
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I'd like to see this as feature for our Facebook page, Best Gunfights of All-Time tournament bracket. Nominate 32 gunfights, with four regions, eight per region, with voting. One gunfight per film, and Michael Mann has to be his own region, otherwise the Elite Eight would just be Michael Mann films (like how Grantland dedicated an entire region to Duke players for their "Most Hated College Basketball Players of all time" bracket.)

If "Michael Mann" is one region, what are the other three? A John Woo region? A Westerns region?

Would would the number 1 seeds be? Potential Cinderellas? Do war movies count?

(Heat would have to come in first, right?)
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Old 11-08-2013, 01:34 AM
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I'd like to see this as feature for our Facebook page, Best Gunfights of All-Time tournament bracket. Nominate 32 gunfights, with four regions, eight per region, with voting. One gunfight per film, and Michael Mann has to be his own region, otherwise the Elite Eight would just be Michael Mann films (like how Grantland dedicated an entire region to Duke players for their "Most Hated College Basketball Players of all time" bracket.)

If "Michael Mann" is one region, what are the other three? A John Woo region? A Westerns region?

Would would the number 1 seeds be? Potential Cinderellas? Do war movies count?

(Heat would have to come in first, right?)
That's a good idea. Now to be honest the whole tournament bracket thing has always defeated me. In other words I would be no good at actually designing one.

Yes Mann might need his own region. I think that westerns could be a region since some of the best gunfights are from westerns (or so I believe). I forgot Saving Private Ryan when I put my list together.I don't see why war movies couldn't have their own region. "Glory", "Battleground", "A Bridge Too Far", "Platoon", "The Longest Day", "Enemy At the Gates" ,"The Wild Geese" and "We Were Soldiers" are just a few that come to mind and I'm not even mentioning the various Korean, German, French and Polish war movies. I guess science fiction/comic book movies might be their own category ..... region (sorry). Then there are action movies. John Woo is good, but so are many of his peers from China, Hong Kong, Japan and Korea. Boy it's making my head hurt. If you want to give it a go I will help out where I can.

Let me know. Good idea though. Could be lots of fun.

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Old 11-08-2013, 02:06 AM
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That's a good idea. Now to be honest the whole tournament bracket thing has always defeated me. In other words I would be no good at actually designing one.

Yes Mann might need his own region. I think that westerns could be a region since some of the best gunfights are from westerns (or so I believe). I forgot Saving Private Ryan when I put my list together.I don't see why war movies couldn't have their own region. "Glory", "Battleground", "A Bridge Too Far", "Platoon", "The Longest Day", "Enemy At the Gates" ,"The Wild Geese" and "We Were Soldiers" are just a few that come to mind and I'm not even mentioning the various Korean, German, French and Polish war movies. I guess science fiction/comic book movies might be their own category ..... region (sorry). Then there are action movies. John Woo is good, but so are many of his peers from China, Hong Kong, Japan and Korea. Boy it's making my head hurt. If you want to give it a go I will help out where I can.

Let me know. Good idea though. Could be lots of fun.
Including war movies just feels little... disrespectful. Action directors can't necessarily do war movies, I think Pearl Harbor and Windtalkers made that clear. It's also hard to pin down a single scene. The Omaha Beach sequence or the final battle in the end in Saving Private Ryan?

I just checked, I'm not sure Michael Mann has enough films to fill his own region. (Eleven films on IMFDB, but not all created equal. Not a lot of gunfights in Ali, I'm afraid.) It'd be way too easy to get an All-Michael Mann Final Four. (Off the top of my head, bank heist in Heat, end of Miami Vice, club shootout in Collateral, lodge shootout from Public Enemies.)
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I'm a big Peckinpah fan, so I'll throw this one in first:

The Getaway. McQueen at the top of his game. The film is a heist flick, a road film, and a solid drama. The shootout with police after he takes the shotgun from the gun store is amazing, and the shootout in the hotel at the end helped to define what action films would look and feel like for the next 20 years.

Aliens. The Pulse Rifle. Every time it lights up a room, I smile. What a tense claustrophobic nightmare of a movie to have such sweeping action scenes.

Boondock Saints. It's not terribly realistic, but it's just entertaining as hell. Il Duce pulling gun after gun from that vest was cool. The cafe. The peepshow. The court room.

Casino Royale. Daniel Craig's first turn as Bond was loaded with unflinching brutality. The first scene literally establishing this iteration of James Bond as a bulldozer. The shootout in the embassy was a happy surprise for me. I never expected to see a Bond this capable without gadgets falling out of every pocket. It was the bond film I'd always wanted to see.

True Grit. John Wayne will always be Rooster Cogburn to me. When Cogburn rides against the Ned Pepper gang, it's not a wild shootout, not a long shootout, but it's a damn good moment in cinema.
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One of my favorite Hong Kong movies has got to be Hard Boiled.

Blackhawk Down is one of my favorite war movies.

Blood Diamond

Black Lagoon being a favorite Anime because it showed me how realistic guns can be drawn and animated
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I know that there are some who like to criticize "L.A. Confidential", but I think that gunfight at the end is very well done.
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I know that there are some who like to criticize "L.A. Confidential", but I think that gunfight at the end is very well done.
Oooh, I totally forgot about LA Confidential. What is there to criticize about it?
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Oooh, I totally forgot about LA Confidential. What is there to criticize about it?
Beats me, but I've read more than a few comments on other gun forums in which posters savage the gunfight at the end. They never go into details just bitch about it. I own it and I like it.
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