NOTICE: We've been mis-IDing M249s...

Excalibur · #1 06-16-2009, 04:09 AM

Damn, this is big. Changes how we look at M249s

MT2008 · #2 06-16-2009, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Excalibur

Damn, this is big. Changes how we look at M249s

I know, and I should've figured it out a long time ago. My faith in my ability to properly identify guns has been ruined. Clearly, I am unworthy of being an admin here...

AdAstra2009 · #3 06-16-2009, 04:36 AM

Who is steve and what are the tale-tale signs of a K3 disguised as an Minimi/M249

MT2008 · #4 06-16-2009, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AdAstra2009

Who is steve and what are the tale-tale signs of a K3 disguised as an Minimi/M249

Steve = Pheonixent = Steve Karnes = movie armorer/gunsmith = admin on IMFDB

I first figured it out when I noticed some LMGs we called M249s had front sights that didn't look Minimi/M249-style. The K3's front sight post is different from the side. Also, the K3s disguised as M249s have a fake stock which looks different from the M249 Paratrooper stock.

"3000 Miles to Graceland" and "Walking Tall" (both of which have good screenshots on their IMFDB pages) are probably the best movies to spot these differences.

MT2008 · #5 06-16-2009, 04:39 PM

Here are some "M249s" in movies/TV shows that are actually Daewoo K3s made to look like M249s:

3000 Miles to Graceland:

Stargate: Atlantis

Walking Tall:

Also, note the front sight of the guns in "Walking Tall"; this is probably the best close-up I've found illustrating the difference. The front sight on the Minimi/M249 is a different shape from the side.

Gunmaster45 · #6 06-16-2009, 06:32 PM

'member who capped that page?

I figured I'd bunch all of the gun images together for instant comparison:

FN M249 Para - 5.56x45mm.

Daewoo K3 - 5.56x45mm.

Rockwolf66 · #7 06-16-2009, 07:45 PM

So far i have noticed that the front and rear sights are different, the angle of the pistol grips are different and the bipod is of a different design. the SPW versions have a none M-249PARA stock and and the none rail fore ends have a half circle taken out of them on the M-249.

have i missed anything?

MT2008 · #8 06-16-2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunmaster45

'member who capped that page?

I know, I know, and I remember you weren't sure, either, and then I told you they were FN Minimi SPWs. Even back then, I remember looking at them and thinking they didn't look exactly like Minimi variants at all.

And the lesson is, I need to act on my eagle eyes a little more...