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Old 12-25-2012, 04:14 PM
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I'm leaning more toward function over form considering my budget and that I'll be able to carry soon, and I've considered dumping my 92SB to fund a carry gun, so while it may have been a dumb move from a collectors standpoint, I understand and respect your decision sir. Now if you didn't make money on the black gem that is the 4505, then there's some concern there.

Oh yeah I took the course to get my permit. Gotta visit the FDOA and finish the process to get the card, and then sell either the 92SB or the Model 19 to fund a carry gun. Looking at a 6906 mostly for cost reasons, but it beats out my other choice, a P228, in that arena as well as finish and availability. I plan on perfecting it over time though as I'm not good on the mag disconnect, the bobbed hammer, the baseplates, or the grip.
Yeah when I sold the 4505, it was the only one I've made money on. Most of time I'm lucky to break even or lose a little bit. I would sell the 92SB to fund a carry gun over the Model 19. Even though the 92SB isn't that common anymore, there's plenty of the 92FS models out there if you want to get another later on. The Model 19 not so much.

In gun purchase news, got a Springfield M1A "Loaded" this past weekend. Hell of time to get one, since most mag suppliers are sold out. But was able to find a few to purchase that were in stock. Also able to get some ammo at an okay price as well, since nobody really likes to bulk up on 7.62NATO.
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Pops gave me his Remington 1100 in 20 ga. for Christmas. He said he overheard my girlfriend talking about how she could never go skeet shooting or hunting with me because I didn't have a shotgun she could comfortably shoot.
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Old 12-25-2012, 09:08 PM
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The reason I've considered the Model 19 over the 92SB is that Model 19s as a whole aren't as rare, and it's not practical for anything I'd do, nor is it the ideal collectors Model 19. It shoots good with the target trigger/hammer, but I never want to pay the ridiculous ammo bill for .357 Magnum, and I hate cleaning .38 Special rings out of the cylinder. As for collector status, it's not pinned and recessed, and even though the 6 inch barrel with the red ramp is rare, it's not quintessential like a 4 inch is. The long barrel makes it impossible to carry efficiently if I'm feeling wheelgunnish as well, and I'd be terrified of wearing the bluing. If I could do it over again I'd have bought a 4 inch Model 19-3 or 19-4 with the red ramp, or settled for a solid black front sight post. For a more functional revolver I would have gone for a Model 66 or early production 686, both of which are the most balanced in terms of practical use and collectibility.

The SB would be almost impossible to find again in any condition, though Predator is right on the FS front, and frankly the FS is way more quintessential and practical. But, as it stands, I can see myself taking the Beretta on a range trip (and I have since I got it) whereas I can't see myself taking the 19 (In the 3 years I was in Oregon, I never shot it due to cost reasons and inability to find 158 grain bullets to be on the safe side with the whole forcing cone concern).

All that said, I am still on the fence with it, and I do have a Hi-Power I could potentially part with as well... decisions, decisions.
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Old 12-26-2012, 01:12 AM
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The reason I've considered the Model 19 over the 92SB is that Model 19s as a whole aren't as rare, and it's not practical for anything I'd do, nor is it the ideal collectors Model 19. It shoots good with the target trigger/hammer, but I never want to pay the ridiculous ammo bill for .357 Magnum, and I hate cleaning .38 Special rings out of the cylinder. As for collector status, it's not pinned and recessed, and even though the 6 inch barrel with the red ramp is rare, it's not quintessential like a 4 inch is. The long barrel makes it impossible to carry efficiently if I'm feeling wheelgunnish as well, and I'd be terrified of wearing the bluing. If I could do it over again I'd have bought a 4 inch Model 19-3 or 19-4 with the red ramp, or settled for a solid black front sight post. For a more functional revolver I would have gone for a Model 66 or early production 686, both of which are the most balanced in terms of practical use and collectibility.

The SB would be almost impossible to find again in any condition, though Predator is right on the FS front, and frankly the FS is way more quintessential and practical. But, as it stands, I can see myself taking the Beretta on a range trip (and I have since I got it) whereas I can't see myself taking the 19 (In the 3 years I was in Oregon, I never shot it due to cost reasons and inability to find 158 grain bullets to be on the safe side with the whole forcing cone concern).
Ah that's right a 6" barrel, more for target. I see where you're coming from. Neither will be seen that often in your LGS. But on GB there's plenty of Model 19s of course. There's no full size 92SBs, since it was a short generation in the Model 92 line. It was the end of the blued era.

Most of the handguns I've sold lately are because I have others I'm more likely to shoot instead. Also to consolidate magazines as well.

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All that said, I am still on the fence with it, and I do have a Hi-Power I could potentially part with as well... decisions, decisions.
While it's not light, I carry my HP MKIII on occasion. Generally during a private gun deal, selling or buying. They have all turned our great and no weird vibes. But you never really know. I picked a up beater MKII to carry instead and keep the MKIII looking nice. If I remember right your HP is an older one with blued finish, so you're not going to want to carry it either.
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Ah that's right a 6" barrel, more for target. I see where you're coming from. Neither will be seen that often in your LGS. But on GB there's plenty of Model 19s of course. There's no full size 92SBs, since it was a short generation in the Model 92 line. It was the end of the blued era.
Interestingly enough I was told by a guy on BerettaForum that they produced them for 10 years which is a fairly long time, and they're still rare. I wonder how many they made in that span and what may have happened to them all.

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While it's not light, I carry my HP MKIII on occasion. Generally during a private gun deal, selling or buying. They have all turned our great and no weird vibes. But you never really know. I picked a up beater MKII to carry instead and keep the MKIII looking nice. If I remember right your HP is an older one with blued finish, so you're not going to want to carry it either.
I carried it at my range and it never seemed to bother me, but I didn't have to conceal it so it may not be so easy in the real world. Not too hesitant to sell privately either, I just wanna make sure my bases are covered. I've considered going down to the local Gun Show when it next comes and seeing what I can sell there.

And my Hi Power, while classic, is totally a beater. It's got finish wear and dings that you just don't see in the few pictures I've posted of it. I didn't even pay that much for it either. When I have the money I'm definitely getting it refinished and maybe putting some new sights on it (S&W K Frame sights if anyone still does that anymore). The more Miami Vice I watch, the more I reconsider hard chrome.
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Interestingly enough I was told by a guy on BerettaForum that they produced them for 10 years which is a fairly long time, and they're still rare. I wonder how many they made in that span and what may have happened to them all.
I hate citing wikipedia, they have the 92SB Compact as being produced from '81-'91. But nothing on the full size. Assuming the full size started at the same time. How many after '85 when the 92F was introduced, would they have produced?
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Interesting, he said he referenced a book and not wiki, but maybe wiki referenced the same book, and it's just not clear? I have no clue really. I know mine was made in 1983 according to the factory codes. I really ought to note the serial numbers when I see them to check dates.

I wouldn't be surprised if they just stopped producing them after the 92F came out though, as it rendered it virtually obsolete.

Just to stay on topic though I'm having so much fun worrying about holster options for a carry set up. IWB is definitely the route I want to go, but I'm not sure on leather or kydex still, nor am I sure of what mag pouch to get (I may cave for the time being and use the well worn Galco DMC my friend gave me). Suggestions would be nice.

Also, predator, what rig do you use for carrying your Hi Power? Been looking for a carry type holster for that too.
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