Guns you want to see made Pt. 2

[k9870]

Ive just shot guns with them at the range. Never had a problem with it. I know its unlikely but why take the risk? And a magazine disconnect may never be an issue either, could easily be though. Just features id rather not deal with, especially with many other guns i like better out there. Also, i find it awkward to use a safety up there, (not that i would unless a department/agency i work for requires it in future)) shoot mostly 1911s though so im used to that type of safety.

Things i hate in guns:

DAO.
Mag disconnects.
Slide mounted safety.

[Yournamehere]

Originally Posted by k9870

Ive just shot guns with them at the range. Never had a problem with it. I know its unlikely but why take the risk? And a magazine disconnect may never be an issue either, could easily be though. Just features id rather not deal with, especially with many other guns i like better out there. Also, i find it awkward to use a safety up there, (not that i would unless a department/agency i work for requires it in future)) shoot mostly 1911s though so im used to that type of safety.

Things i hate in guns:

DAO.
Mag disconnects.
Slide mounted safety.

The naturally dehorned and smooth nature of a Glock slide would make it harder to strip a failed round if I needed to, and if a round fails I have to rack the slide to cock the striker again, so why take the risk with that?

The SIG decocker doesn't actually click and actuate until it reaches the very bottom, and the click itself is pretty rough while the majority of the push is light, so it'd be very easy for someone to think they've decocked it in the heat of the moment when they actually haven't, so they could be wandering around with a gun in SA mode with no safety and that is dangerous. Why take that risk?

1911s are safe when they are cocked and locked, but that safety can pop off riding in a holster or the user could forget to actuate it, or worse yet, the sear could somehow fail and have the hammer come down and discharge the pistol. Why take that risk?

When we think of hypothetical situations, any stupid thing is possible, and even if it's based in some logical realm, it's still theory and doesn't hold a candle to what people actually of through, or the fact that anyone can learn to do anything and use any system proficiently so long as they aren't an idiot and put in the time to practice with it. Have all the opinions you want, but don't base them in theory, because if you believe them, you have to believe my examples as well and I know you don't, nobody does.

And don't say I'm doing this to be mean either, because I don't like mag disconnects or DAO either because of my own reasons, so we agree there, but I understand that someone else might for their reasons and they are right too, so long as their reasons are based of course in practice and not theory.

[S&Wshooter]

I can see why LEO's would want the mag disconnect. If you are in a struggle with somebody for your gun, if it has a mag disconnect you can simply drop the mag and let the bastard have the gun. While he is wondering why the gun won't go bang, you can taser him or bash him with a nightstick

I don't really mind the mag disconnect nor the heavy double action trigger. I make damn sure the mag is seated when I reload by giving it a hard extra tap. All the heavy trigger means to me is that if someone like a child were to somehow get ahold of my gun, they will be less likely to hurt somebody

[Yournamehere]

I don't like the disconnect because guns with it differ from about every gun I have ever used, and with my Browning, I can't lower the hammer unless I have a mag seated and I don't want to have to put a magazine in my gun to be able to lower the hammer or dry fire it, especially if I keep loaded mags around. I have some extra mags I keep empty, but it's annoying to have to take them out of their case and put them in when I want to dry fire or lower my hammer after clearing it, and it just gets annoying. Mostly though I'd just like the gun to operate like my 1911 or every other gun I own or is out there.

As I said before I tolerated it on my Smith cause I could decock the pistol without the mag in place thanks to the decocker, but if I wanted to dry fire I needed the mag, but as long as I could drop the hammer without putting it in I wasn't that annoyed. It is nice to dry fire without a mag though as it's one less thing you have to check and keep track of. I can see both sides of the arguments with disconnects in engagement roles where one might need to fire their sole chambered round, or if they need to disable their gun in the event it's being taken away from them though, but as a gun enthusiast, I can't really approve of them.

[k9870]

If i was struggling with somebody i doubt dropping my mag would be a reaction. And if something malfunctioned (like a feed lip breaking, etc.) and the mag didnt fully seat, then the round in the chamber may be all you get and youll have to load 1 at a time. Also, at the range with new shooters its common to load 1 at a time to check for flinching and such. And In competitions you need to end a run by dropping amag popping the chamber, decock by pulling trigger so a disconenct would be a bitch.

[S&Wshooter]

.45 ACP High Power

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[k9870]

Could the HP handle it? Youd need to expand the frame for sure.