Folding Stocks?

[Nyles]

Telescoping. I need a different length when I have on body armor vs when I don't.

[k9870]

If i was in a military combat role i would want a adjustable stock, as long as its not the crappy m4 ones, id want like a vltor with the superior cheek weld. But im a civilian shooter and dont strap on a plate carrier.

[Excalibur]

In with the new, so I like the folding telescoptic stocks like on the SCAR, or ACR

[Nyles]

Originally Posted by k9870

If i was in a military combat role i would want a adjustable stock, as long as its not the crappy m4 ones, id want like a vltor with the superior cheek weld. But im a civilian shooter and dont strap on a plate carrier.

And I've got no real interest in shooting black rifles on my own dime.

[MT2008]

If we're talking about ARs, I'd rather have telescoping than fixed. Most fixed AR stocks (including the M16A2-style) are a bit too long for me. Also, if you shoot with anyone else who may be bigger/smaller, it's nice to be able to adjust the stock for multiple people.

Folding stocks (top, bottom, left, right) seem necessary unless you have storage issues, and many of them suck to actually shoot (especially AK under-folders). I guess the idea of combination folding/telescoping on the SCAR is pretty clever (as Excalibur suggested), but I'm a little wary of folding stocks on rifles that have polymer construction. Seems like the hinges might be fragile relative to a permanently fixed/telescoping stock.

[Excalibur]

Then what do you think about the retractable one on MP5s? They're metal but don't you think they can be fragile because they aren't held together by much. You can take the stock apart very easily.

I've seen demos of them shooting the ACR and the SCAR-L with the stocks folded to show their recoil isn't so severe.

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by Excalibur

Then what do you think about the retractable one on MP5s? They're metal but don't you think they can be fragile because they aren't held together by much.

H&K retractable stocks suck, and not just on MP5s...on all of their metal long guns. They're uncomfortable, only have three length settings (fully retracted, 1/4 retracted, fully extended), and they develop a "wobble" after extended use. Look at any pictures of SF guys or SWAT units carrying MP5s, and you see many of the collapsible stocks are slanted downwards due to the wobble. That's why most people who still use MP5s now fit them with other (better) types of stocks.

[k9870]

The G3a4 stocks look more in line with the barrel for recoil control but also look like they offer no cheek weld.