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[Nyles]

I think the mag tube of the Winchester is likely inside the jacket (incidentally the 1866 did have a wood forend). The Ottoman Army actually used the Winchester 1866 Musket to good effect at the Battle of Plevna in 1877. They ultimately lost, but held for months against a Russian force 3 times their size.

The Bergmann actually isn't necessarily missing the mag, it loads by inserting a stripper clip of ammo into a trapdoor in the side, as I recall the bottom is supposed to be open.

[ersoz]

Thank you for the info Nyles.
This one was the only Bergmann in the museum. Another interesting fact is that The Bergmann was manufactured in 1896 just like the Mauser. Perhaps the Mauser was more reliable than the Bergmann and it became the prefered sidearm of mostly German and Ottoman officers.

Last pic for now.. More to come soon...

[Nyles]

Well, I think the main factor was power. The biggest round the Bergmann was available in was the 6.5mm Bergmann, which pushed a 76 grain bullet at 710 FPS. 7.63mm Mauser pushes an 85 grain at 1410 FPS.

[ManiacallyChallenged]

Those are some excellent pictures, and stuff I've never seen before (Bergman and Mauser notwithstanding).

Thanks for taking these and putting them up.

[ersoz]

You are welcome.

Here's a picture of the museum itself. Harbiye Askeri Muzesi.



Building used to be a military school and it still belongs to the Turkish armed forces. It is also being operated by TAF. Awful, useless website. I won't bother sharing the link here.
Note the barrel of the mighty "rail gun" at the bottom. I have some pics of it.

First floor is devoted to pre WW1 era. And that goes all the way back to the 10th century if I'm not mistaken. And no, not only firearms but all sorts of weapons are on display. Took me 2 visits to cover most of the first floor. I'm hoping to cover the rest of the museum in the following weeks.
Since this is a firearm forum I won't be bothering you folks with pictures of blades and such.

Some revolvers:





This collection of revolvers belonged to some militia leader from early 20th century and apparently he carried all or most of them on his person. ( I might be wrong)

[k9870]

The older guns were very nice looking.

[ersoz]

Revolvers, continued:



Too fancy:



This one would make a nice Christmas present:



Can't tell if these are Webley's

[BlackIce_GTS]

Thanks for the pictures, that's some really cool/obscure stuff.
(If you're uploading the pictures anyway, could you perhaps share the link to the bladed stuff? Thanks.)

[ManiacallyChallenged]

The other ones looked like that French pin-fire pistol.

[ersoz]

Originally Posted by BlackIce_GTS

Thanks for the pictures, that's some really cool/obscure stuff.
(If you're uploading the pictures anyway, could you perhaps share the link to the bladed stuff? Thanks.)

Thanks all for your comments and info.

I will go back to the museum to take more pictures. Especially of the medieval weapons. I can gladly share the link to those pics.

Multi barreled pistols: I really like the double barrel setup.



Can you tell me how this one cycles?:



Nice collection here: