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[ersoz]

Here's an interesting one from Belgium.
It's a 19th century magazine fed Belgian pistol:



A Martin?



Custom made Ottoman pistol



Another Ottoman (?) pistol



The museum has a few thousand firearms from different centuries... So I think I will be contributing for awhile...

[k9870]

how does that mag fed pistol cycle?

[ersoz]

Well..That's the problem with this museum. So many guns and almost no descriptions. I'm afraid I have no idea but I also would like to know how it cycles.
Perhaps the operator of the weapon cycles it manually by pushing the mag downwards or upwards. Would that be possible?

[k9870]

either way, excellent pics.

[ersoz]

Thank you Sir.

Here's a German semi and I assume its mag is missing:



But I'll take these instead: (most sinister looking handgun ever)



This one is a beauty:



When it comes to German weapons of late 19th century and early 20th century, Turkey is a gold mine. Especially 1896's, P08's and their variants with accessories can be found quite easily.

[Nyles]

I think the mag tube of the Winchester is likely inside the jacket (incidentally the 1866 did have a wood forend). The Ottoman Army actually used the Winchester 1866 Musket to good effect at the Battle of Plevna in 1877. They ultimately lost, but held for months against a Russian force 3 times their size.

The Bergmann actually isn't necessarily missing the mag, it loads by inserting a stripper clip of ammo into a trapdoor in the side, as I recall the bottom is supposed to be open.

[ersoz]

Thank you for the info Nyles.
This one was the only Bergmann in the museum. Another interesting fact is that The Bergmann was manufactured in 1896 just like the Mauser. Perhaps the Mauser was more reliable than the Bergmann and it became the prefered sidearm of mostly German and Ottoman officers.

Last pic for now.. More to come soon...

[Nyles]

Well, I think the main factor was power. The biggest round the Bergmann was available in was the 6.5mm Bergmann, which pushed a 76 grain bullet at 710 FPS. 7.63mm Mauser pushes an 85 grain at 1410 FPS.

[ManiacallyChallenged]

Those are some excellent pictures, and stuff I've never seen before (Bergman and Mauser notwithstanding).

Thanks for taking these and putting them up.

[BlackIce_GTS]

Thanks for the pictures, that's some really cool/obscure stuff.
(If you're uploading the pictures anyway, could you perhaps share the link to the bladed stuff? Thanks.)