Something interesting about the Px4 Wiki page...

[MoviePropMaster2008]

Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache

This is one of those things that is really no big deal and nobody should care about it (for a variety of reasons) but knowing MPM (at least knowing him from his post history) he is not going to be happy about this.

Nice to know you think so little of theft of IP (intellectual property). Photographs are a BIG DEAL. Professional photographers have sued and received large settlements (but usually from large magazines etc.) On the net we need to keep some anonymous douchebag from claiming credit for something he had nothing to do with. Usually the photographer is happy just to have the image removed.

Originally Posted by BurtReynoldsMoustache

PS: I can understand him being irked about this considering the massive amount of effort he put into those photographs, but hey it's the internet. Justified as he may be, realistically what can he do about it?

Actually the Wikipedia mods are VERY cooperative regarding PIRATED intellectual property. And no I don't melt down. Wikipedia has already requested and GOT some pics of rare items which they KNOW barely exist on the net. I may have to 'release' more IMFDB licensed images to 'help them out' and to also keep them beholden to keeping us HAPPY.

These pics were shot for IMFDB and IMFDB only. I think more than a few IMFDB members like the fact that we have so many images that no one else on the net has.

BTW, thanks to all for pointing out the pirated pics. Remember, the only people who don't think anything of image theft are those who don't create anything worth stealing themselves

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008

These pics were shot for IMFDB and IMFDB only. I think more than a few IMFDB members like the fact that we have so many images that no one else on the net has.

Of course I love the fact that we have such awesome pics, and that we were the first place to have them. But I'm not nearly as enthusiastic about the idea that they're exclusively for our use. I would be perfectly fine with other sites using some of our images as long as they credited us (which is what the person on Wikipedia who used the Px4 pics failed to do). But since I didn't take the pics myself, it's not my call.

Also, while I don't agree with Burt that the 'Net is some free-for-all where anything that can be downloaded is fair game for limitless distribution, I do think he's got a point that it's not going to be easy to clamp down on everyone who tries to use our images. As IMFDB gets more popular (which has been the trend of the last 3 years that I've been here), more people are going to see our gun images, not read our rules, and try to download them for use on their own sites. We can control a handful of Wikipedia users who upload our images without permission, but we won't be able to handle hundreds of users who post our images on other Wikis that aren't as stringent about enforcing copyrights.

And remember that the 'Net is full of people who think that Intellectual Property is some outdated 20th century concept.

[Yournamehere]

Yeah, as cool as it would be to have images exclusively, it's not exactly practical when they are second to none, and we (MPM really) are displaying them on the internet of all places.

[MoviePropMaster2008]

Originally Posted by MT2008

Of course I love the fact that we have such awesome pics, and that we were the first place to have them. But I'm not nearly as enthusiastic about the idea that they're exclusively for our use. I would be perfectly fine with other sites using some of our images as long as they credited us (which is what the person on Wikipedia who used the Px4 pics failed to do). But since I didn't take the pics myself, it's not my call.

Also, while I don't agree with Burt that the 'Net is some free-for-all where anything that can be downloaded is fair game for limitless distribution, I do think he's got a point that it's not going to be easy to clamp down on everyone who tries to use our images. As IMFDB gets more popular (which has been the trend of the last 3 years that I've been here), more people are going to see our gun images, not read our rules, and try to download them for use on their own sites. We can control a handful of Wikipedia users who upload our images without permission, but we won't be able to handle hundreds of users who post our images on other Wikis that aren't as stringent about enforcing copyrights.

And remember that the 'Net is full of people who think that Intellectual Property is some outdated 20th century concept.

I never said it would be EASY to police the net. I just said that in order to protect what is yours, you have to fight for it. NO one is going to catch all the idiots who steal pics, but the WIKIPEDIA example is more egregious since that user openly claimed CREDIT that the images were his. Some kid stealing one of MY PICS for his stupid gaming site isn't gonna cause a melt down and Burt's implication that I'm somehow irrational for not liking people ripping off my work was insulting, thus my disdain for him

Well, from now on I can post all gun pics like THIS....

What do you think?

[MoviePropMaster2008]

Originally Posted by MT2008

Of course I love the fact that we have such awesome pics, and that we were the first place to have them. But I'm not nearly as enthusiastic about the idea that they're exclusively for our use. I would be perfectly fine with other sites using some of our images as long as they credited us (which is what the person on Wikipedia who used the Px4 pics failed to do). But since I didn't take the pics myself, it's not my call.

Also, while I don't agree with Burt that the 'Net is some free-for-all where anything that can be downloaded is fair game for limitless distribution, I do think he's got a point that it's not going to be easy to clamp down on everyone who tries to use our images. As IMFDB gets more popular (which has been the trend of the last 3 years that I've been here), more people are going to see our gun images, not read our rules, and try to download them for use on their own sites. We can control a handful of Wikipedia users who upload our images without permission, but we won't be able to handle hundreds of users who post our images on other Wikis that aren't as stringent about enforcing copyrights.

And remember that the 'Net is full of people who think that Intellectual Property is some outdated 20th century concept.

I never said it would be EASY to police the net. I just said that in order to protect what is yours, you have to fight for it. NO one is going to catch all the idiots who steal pics, but the WIKIPEDIA example is more egregious since that user openly claimed CREDIT that the images were his. Some kid stealing one of MY PICS for his stupid gaming site isn't gonna cause a melt down and Burt's implication that I'm somehow irrational for not liking people ripping off my work was insulting, thus my disdain for him

Well, from now on I can post all gun pics like THIS....

What do you think?

[Milkovich]

Needs more iridescent purple.

[Rockwolf66]

Please don't as I'll have issues convincing friends of mine to send you money so that they may use your pictures in their gaming products. Trust me when i say that MPM makes some of the best Firearms photos on the net, and that is why people want to use them. Now I have informed people that should they want to use MPM's Images for say a gaming book then all they have to do is ask MPM if they can use them.

[ManiacallyChallenged]

Oh man, that gun is teh sexy!
I need a Desert Eagle with the same IMFDB theme going on.