I (also) want a GLOCK 34. Opinions?

[S&Wshooter]

Originally Posted by k9870

Yeah, back problems are common among police officers, every teacher ive had said if your a patrol officer, then you need to work out a lot for your back.

I can see why departments may want to standardize a caliber, but not a gun. They say its to share mags in a firefight, but odds are if you run out of your ammo, your partner has too. And if you shoot 3-4 magazines, you should be using a rifle or shotgn for this fight. Besides, I know some people shoot one type of gun better than another. So if you cnat shoot crapwith a glock and shoot expert with a sig, then you should carry the later. Some departments in my have a approved list, where you pick one, and have a set budget (one officer said he was given 1000 to buy gun, belt, gear.)

In Houston officers are issued the P226, but everyone carries a Glock for some reason. In Beaumont I think you have to pay for your own stuff with your own money

[Jcordell]

k9870

Yeah, back problems are common among police officers, every teacher ive had said if your a patrol officer, then you need to work out a lot for your back.

I can see why departments may want to standardize a caliber, but not a gun. They say its to share mags in a firefight, but odds are if you run out of your ammo, your partner has too. And if you shoot 3-4 magazines, you should be using a rifle or shotgn for this fight. Besides, I know some people shoot one type of gun better than another. So if you cnat shoot crapwith a glock and shoot expert with a sig, then you should carry the later. Some departments in my have a approved list, where you pick one, and have a set budget (one officer said he was given 1000 to buy gun, belt, gear.)

I go to a chiropracter on a consistent basis and I work out. It helps. I also stopped running. Instead I walk, ride the bicycle, stair machine, eliptical ect. Running just tore me up. Too much impact on my lower back. So now I'm one of those cops who does not chase the bad guy. Hell even when I was twenty I wasn't that fast of a runner. I'm 42 now.

The decision to go to a standard handgun wasn't mine. I don't know the reason behind it. It was never explained to me. However as a firearms instructor I have found that most of our new officers (many who have experience with rifles/shotguns, but little to none with handguns) pick up the GLOCK pretty fast. Also it's very easy to figure out what they are doing wrong since we are all on the same sheet of music.

And our new officers want to be cops so they're motivatd to learn how to shoot the G21. It's just the way it is.

[S&Wshooter]

The belt is probably be why I could never be a cop. I already suck at running, and the belt would make it worse. It's fucked up how ya'll are expected to chase people while carrying all that gear

[Jcordell]

Originally Posted by S&Wshooter

The belt is probably be why I could never be a cop. I already suck at running, and the belt would make it worse. It's fucked up how ya'll are expected to chase people while carrying all that gear

Well fortunately there always seems to be a couple 23 or 24 year old cops around when a foot pursuit is required. They're like Golden Retrievers.

[S&Wshooter]

Originally Posted by Checkman

Well fortunately there always seems to be a couple 23 or 24 year old cops around when a foot pursuit is required. They're like Golden Retrievers.

They should issue older officers shotguns loaded with rubber rounds so they can just pop anyone who runs. New shotguns and rubber bullets will cost a whole helluva lot less that medical bills for shit like heart attacks

[k9870]

At least you have the SF, the standard is real thick for anyone without xxxl sized hands.

Some officers i see have a harness that goes over shoulders and suspends the belt, but it looks goofy. I have a strong back and work out, but im not carrying a duty rig around either. Im going into LE though so ill know eventually.

The same gun thing has been said to be so an officer can use anothers when they run out of ammo but it sounds rediculous to me.

[Jcordell]

Originally Posted by k9870

At least you have the SF, the standard is real thick for anyone without xxxl sized hands.

Some officers i see have a harness that goes over shoulders and suspends the belt, but it looks goofy. I have a strong back and work out, but im not carrying a duty rig around either. Im going into LE though so ill know eventually.

The same gun thing has been said to be so an officer can use anothers when they run out of ammo but it sounds rediculous to me.

Some of the agencies up in Washington state use the harness that you're talking about. I'd like to, but I don't see it happening anytime soon.

[k9870]

How much do you think your belt weighs fully loaded? I know belts change depending on gear used and materials, like a nylon belt as opposed to leather, polymer or metal flashlight, etc.

[Jcordell]

Originally Posted by k9870

How much do you think your belt weighs fully loaded? I know belts change depending on gear used and materials, like a nylon belt as opposed to leather, polymer or metal flashlight, etc.

It's not too bad. Perhaps between eight and ten pounds? I'll have to weigh it. The vest is heavy and hot. Which isn't too bad this time of year, but it's not much fun in the middle of the summer. I basically spend all summer and much of the fall sweating and constantly damp. And I'm in southwestern Idaho.

I don't know how the cops in the southeastern U.S. or Arizona, Las Vegas, and Southern California do it.

[k9870]

They probably change t shirts 6 times a day.