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Old 12-03-2010, 06:47 AM
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do you always have to be negative?
Because launching a blitzkrieg against your most disadvantaged citizens is a good thing?
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Old 12-03-2010, 12:06 PM
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Btw, this operation was a sucess, the Alemao is safe now after 20 years. The next objective is the Rocinha.







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Because launching a blitzkrieg against your most disadvantaged citizens is a good thing?
Looks like you don´t know anything about Brazil. Acording to you, drug dealers and gangs are "disadvantaged citizens". Nice...
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Old 12-03-2010, 12:09 PM
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Looks like you don´t know anything about Brazil. Acording to you, drug dealers and gangs are "disadvantaged citizens". Nice...
I know. Burt thinks this operation's objective is "kill all the poor people" for some reason
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Old 12-03-2010, 12:24 PM
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Looks like you don´t know anything about Brazil. Acording to you, drug dealers and gangs are "disadvantaged citizens". Nice...
I'd rather listen to the opinion of a person who's from South America than some jerk-off in L.A.
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Is one of those guys in the top picture using one of those FALs chambered in 5.56? I want one of those
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Old 12-03-2010, 01:19 PM
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*sarcasm* WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING!!!!! burt is never wrong! why would you question him
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*sarcasm* WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING!!!!! burt is never wrong! why would you question him
Take a moment to think about if this was happening here in the United States. This isn't a bunch of police officers making arrests, this is a military operation. They are literally at war with their own citizens.
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Old 12-03-2010, 04:28 PM
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It can't happen in this US without major political backlash against the government and as you know, the US government likes to keep it's constituents happy so they can vote them into office.
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Old 12-03-2010, 05:35 PM
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Everyone stop acting so stupid, or this topic gets it. How many times have I asked y'all?

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Take a moment to think about if this was happening here in the United States. This isn't a bunch of police officers making arrests, this is a military operation. They are literally at war with their own citizens.
Except that Brazil is nothing like the United States. Our drug dealers haven't killed dozens of cops with weapons like HMGs and RPGs. In terms of their weapons and tactics, the favela gangs are far more comparable to paramilitary or insurgent forces than they are to the Crips and Bloods. So it is necessary for BOPE to act like a military force (and, in this op, work with actual military personnel) in order to fight them.

I suppose you also feel the same way about Mexico (Mexican troops have been deployed to fight the cartels on countless occasions)?

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Drugs, yes. Welfare checks, no.
Neither of these is going to happen anytime soon (and Brazil has no control over American drug laws, anyway), so you might as well deal with reality. As long as there is a problem, BOPE has to deal with it.

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There a threat, a bigass threat, to everyone and seeing them wiped out is good.
Although I disagree with Burt that it's wrong for the Marines to take part in this operation, you are wrong about this last part. They aren't going to be able to "wipe out" the drug gangs. As long as there is poverty and drugs are illegal, the gangs will always exist. By occupying the favelas, the BOPE and Marines will be able to repress the gangs, but it won't be permanent. As soon as they leave (which they'll have to do eventually, because military occupations are expensive, especially for a country like Brazil), the gangs will return.
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