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Old 11-22-2010, 06:55 PM
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A. Beretta grip is large and unconfortable.
B. Slide mounted safety can accidentally turn on when racking slide (yeah, some of us do that over using slide release.)
C. Bigger than a 9mm should be.
I don't like slide safeties either, but that's why I liked the Taurus PT92 better than the Beretta (as I've said in a bunch of posts on here). However, I'm not sure if you can really activate it when chambering the gun. In my experience, the slide serrations are long enough and the safety unobtrusive enough that this doesn't happen.

As for the size issue, the 92F is a pretty big gun, but it's not like you can't buy more compact variants (the Centurion, for example).

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Actually, I heard Steyr is going to start importing the M series again

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...d-sa1-pistols/
Interesting. Though I doubt they'll sell many of them here. At this point, it's pretty much impossible to displace Glock from its current share of the market (LE or civilian). Also, I read a review of the M1 (the original, not the M1A) which complained about the grip angle and circumference. I can't comment myself, of course, because I've never seen nor held one.
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I have big hands, so the 92s fit my hand pretty nice. But a smaller grip is better
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The 92F doesn't really have that big a grip; it's just big length-wise. (When I was an airsofter, my 92F was so large that I couldn't carry it on my waist without the barrel digging into my hip, so I wound up carrying it on my thigh instead. But most law enforcement personnel, for example, don't have that option.)
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Even common guns arent seen in movies, look at the XD or M&P, extrememly popular in real life, not so much in movies, then theres the ruger sr9, lcp and lcr, which sell like hotcakes and havent made it to film.
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Even common guns arent seen in movies, look at the XD or M&P, extrememly popular in real life, not so much in movies, then theres the ruger sr9, lcp and lcr, which sell like hotcakes and havent made it to film.
You are confusing popularity with law enforcement versus popularity with "common folk". The guns you've listed may be popular with civilian shooters in the U.S., but how many LE agencies issue them? Last I heard, Glock holds over 60% of the U.S. LE market, SIG-Sauer holds about a third, and everyone else is fighting over the remaining 2-3%.

And in case you've forgotten, Hollywood isn't in the habit of making movies about common folk who own guns; most of the time that you see guns in movies, they're being carried by either LE personnel or bad guys.
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The 92F doesn't really have that big a grip; it's just big length-wise. (When I was an airsofter, my 92F was so large that I couldn't carry it on my waist without the barrel digging into my hip, so I wound up carrying it on my thigh instead. But most law enforcement personnel, for example, don't have that option.)
What type of holster were you uisng?
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What type of holster were you uisng?
Can't remember the brand name anymore, but it was some pretty cheap holster I got from Red Wolf (this was probably about 8 years ago now). I'm not really sure it was the holster, mostly just my physique.
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I remember most of my team that had sidearms had drop leg holsters. I had a 1911 type pistol, but I rarely use it. Eventually, I just stopped carrying it because I never get to pull it out and we usually play outdoors.
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I remember most of my team that had sidearms had drop leg holsters. I had a 1911 type pistol, but I rarely use it. Eventually, I just stopped carrying it because I never get to pull it out and we usually play outdoors.
Ah, forgot to clarify: It wasn't a drop-leg holster, it was a canvas belt holster. The barrel of the Beretta dug into the side of my hip/thigh whenever I crouched or squatted. I later got a thigh holster instead, which was better, but I still got annoyed at the way the gun bounced around so much (because I had very thin legs back then).

Like you, I eventually decided sidearms were unnecessary for skirmishes. I died too quickly, plus not carrying a sidearm meant I could carry more mags for the M16A2.
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Last time I heard Glock was at 40 percent or so. But then even civilain firearms should be showing up in movies about civilians. And then you are still more likely to see a thug in a movie pull a beretta than the hi point or lorcin criminals carry. And Average Joe Citizen will pull a Glock 17 from the nightstand instead of a M&P or XD.
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