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Old 11-16-2010, 08:27 PM
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I didn't think it was all that anti-gun (besides the line about "There are more gun stores in America than McDonald's"). Deliberately selling weapons to dictators, war lords, and terrorists (knowing exactly how they plan to use the weapons), in violation of arms embargoes, is something I'm pretty sure that any reasonable person can agree is wrong, regardless of where they stand in the American gun control debate.
"Lord of War opens with one of the most impressive and provocative credit sequences in recent memory. Adopting a point-of-view perspective, the camera follows a bullet from its manufacture in an American factory to various ports, then across the globe to a small African village where it is placed in the chamber of a pistol and shot through the skull of a young boy."
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I was speaking for on the front that the US gets more blame on gun issues and that Nato is alway doing heavy pushing on small arms banning. Plus the movie fail to properly inform the mainstream audiences about the deeper issues.
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Old 11-16-2010, 08:55 PM
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"Lord of War opens with one of the most impressive and provocative credit sequences in recent memory. Adopting a point-of-view perspective, the camera follows a bullet from its manufacture in an American factory to various ports, then across the globe to a small African village where it is placed in the chamber of a pistol and shot through the skull of a young boy."
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I was speaking for on the front that the US gets more blame on gun issues and that Nato is alway doing heavy pushing on small arms banning. Plus the movie fail to properly inform the mainstream audiences about the deeper issues.
This "AZRickD" obviously doesn't know jack shit about weapons, and was also clearly not paying attention and/or high during the movie. The bullet shown isn't made in an American factory, it's made in a RUSSIAN factory, and it's fired from an AK, not a pistol. Seriously, dude, why on Earth would you trust some retarded leftist critic more than you trust me?

I'm also not sure how this movie blames the U.S., aside from the fact that Yuri Orlov (Cage's character) manages to get off because he has sent arms to authoritarian regimes that also happened to be CIA allies. It is true that during the Cold War, the U.S. supplied weapons to militia groups that probably shouldn't have received them. The movie does make clear that the origin of most of the weapons is from unsecured stocks in the former Soviet Union, not the U.S.
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Old 11-16-2010, 09:22 PM
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This "AZRickD" obviously doesn't know jack shit about weapons, and was also clearly not paying attention and/or high during the movie. The bullet shown isn't made in an American factory, it's made in a RUSSIAN factory, and it's fired from an AK, not a pistol. Seriously, dude, why on Earth would you trust some retarded leftist critic more than you trust me?

I'm also not sure how this movie blames the U.S., aside from the fact that Yuri Orlov (Cage's character) manages to get off because he has sent arms to authoritarian regimes that also happened to be CIA allies. It is true that during the Cold War, the U.S. supplied weapons to militia groups that probably shouldn't have received them. The movie does make clear that the origin of most of the weapons is from unsecured stocks in the former Soviet Union, not the U.S.
I did notice the pistol comment instead of the rifle but i thought i would let the dude slide on it...but what ur saying is coming across very logical.

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Old 11-16-2010, 10:47 PM
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For the record it was a 7.62x39mm bullet loaded into an AK.
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Old 11-17-2010, 05:22 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5M5qx2xKTo

MacGyver had at least one episode where Mac explained his thoughts on the second amendment, saying that he felt it was about military, not private citizens, and that gun ownership should not be allowed.

But I believe it was discussed in a few episodes. It was more than a plot device.
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Old 11-17-2010, 06:12 PM
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MacGyver had at least one episode where Mac explained his thoughts on the second amendment, saying that he felt it was about military, not private citizens, and that gun ownership should not be allowed.

But I believe it was discussed in a few episodes. It was more than a plot device.
OK then, that definitely is not cool...we can add "MacGyver" to the list of anti-gun media, if only as an "honorary" member.

But usually, when somebody says "anti-gun" movie, I think of a movie where the entire purpose of the screenplay is to rail against gun ownership and the 2nd Amendment, or where guns are heavily demonized. Movies like "Liberty Stands Still" and "Strapped" epitomize this.
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I remember a line from Legion (yes, it was a terrible movie), but one line where one guy asked another why he had a gun and he said for protection. And then the other guy asked "Protection against what?"...That is the stupidest liberal gun question I have ever heard.
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I remember a line from Legion (yes, it was a terrible movie), but one line where one guy asked another why he had a gun and he said for protection. And then the other guy asked "Protection against what?"...That is the stupidest liberal gun question I have ever heard.
I don't think that was a "liberal gun question". What he was really trying to get at is who Tyrese Gibson's character was...a "gangsta" who needed protection from other thugs in his "hood". I don't think it was meant to be political.
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Old 11-17-2010, 08:06 PM
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Sure, the guy does have the look that he used to be a gangsta, but the question itself "Protection from what?" That question is always asked by people who thinks guns don't belong in civilian hands. They ask why need a gun?
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