15 Guns

MT2008 · #1 04-20-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunmaster45

If I had to pick a Bren 10-like gun, I'd go for an Armalite AR-24 pistol. Bren pistols are too hot, and break due to the ammo. That's why Sonny Crocket only used it for a season on Miami Vice before moving on the S&W autos.

That would be rather odd, because the Bren 10s used in "Miami Vice" didn't fire 10mm blanks. The guns you see Don Johnson using were actually built specially for the show and were re-chambered to fire .45 ACP blanks. Or at least, that's what I've read.

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Originally Posted by ManiacallyChallenged

I've read about the problems they had with the Bren Ten on Miami Vice, and I thought it was because they had modified it to fire .45 for cost/availability reasons? I was under the possibly erroneous assumption that 10mm's downside was just price and availability.

I've heard the same thing, actually. .45 ACP was a much more readily available caliber for blanks. I'm not sure it would matter even if the gun used 10mm blanks, anyway...

ManiacallyChallenged · #2 04-21-2009, 12:22 AM

Aside from their re-chambering I believe the only change was a stainless finish.

Gunmaster45 · #3 04-21-2009, 01:14 AM

Okay maybe I'm wrong on that, but the actual Bren-10s suffered from the ammo. You are aware there is a newer and better 10mm availible now right? The new type has been chambered into the Glock 20, the S&W 1006, the H&K MP5-10, and many more guns.

ManiacallyChallenged · #4 04-21-2009, 01:25 AM

Oh yes of course, my first exposure to REAL 10mm was in the old Rainbow Six Rogue Spear, where my favorite weapon was the MP5 in 10mm.

I honestly don't know why I like the Bren Ten, but not other 10mm. Probably because the Bren Ten has appeal as a "classic" but the new ones just seem kind of like a pointless caliber. I'm a strange one.

k9870 · #5 04-21-2009, 02:49 AM

The 1076 is supposed to be a solid 10mil, and my girlfriends dad used to have a delta elite, solid gun but pricy.

Krel · #6 04-21-2009, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MT2008

That would be rather odd, because the Bren 10s used in "Miami Vice" didn't fire 10mm blanks. The guns you see Don Johnson using were actually built specially for the show and were re-chambered to fire .45 ACP blanks. Or at least, that's what I've read.

I've heard the same thing, actually. .45 ACP was a much more readily available caliber for blanks. I'm not sure it would matter even if the gun used 10mm blanks, anyway...

There was a controversy when the show came out due to the Bren 10. There were people who had paid for the pistol, and were waiting for it to be delivered. Then there were people who had received there pistols, but had no magazines for it. The owner of the company said that he built them in his spare time, and that excuse pleased absolutely nobody! The owner also said that the pistols (there were more than one) were built from defective parts, and so could not use real ammunition.

David.

ManiacallyChallenged · #7 04-21-2009, 05:51 AM

Ouch, that is not a solid business practice.
Not surprising however that the demand for it exceeded its production capacity, people love using things they've seen on TV. Hence Agent Smith and the Desert Eagle craze.