p226/9 in 40 shoot 9mm?

k9870 · #1 09-25-2010, 08:41 PM

Im looking more at a p229, especially an elite dark in 40. Still counting down to my 21st. Id just like the ability to shoot 9mm, i think ill just get a .22 conversion though, iv heard good reviews. Also, i dont think ill go for a german gun, i like the rail and want the short reset trigger, and also, i dont notice a difference in balance like some do, to be fair ive only held a west german sig never shot one.

MT2008 · #2 09-28-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by k9870

Im looking more at a p229, especially an elite dark in 40. Still counting down to my 21st. Id just like the ability to shoot 9mm, i think ill just get a .22 conversion though, iv heard good reviews. Also, i dont think ill go for a german gun, i like the rail and want the short reset trigger, and also, i dont notice a difference in balance like some do, to be fair ive only held a west german sig never shot one.

I hate Elites, mostly because I hate beavertails.

Why do you need the rail? Are you going to attach a flashlight or anything else? If not, the rail just looks ugly and unnecessary.

If you want a 229, there are no German-made 229s. But I would recommend a 228 if you can find one (it's arguably the best pistol SIG has ever made). The slide doesn't effect balance substantially, but it is nicer because it's lighter.

Also, if you really want a rail, then consider the P228R.

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BTW, is there a custom shop to nickle finish guns? I think sigs with nickel inishes on controls look cool.

There's lots of shops that do this, but you can also buy a separate set of nickel controls and install them yourself. It might even be cheaper than the cost of sending the gun to the shop (FFL transfer fees + labor time).

k9870 · #3 09-28-2010, 12:28 PM

The rail is to put a light on for home defense, and i want a 40, not a 9mm, the 9 would just be convienent for price, which would make a conversion cool, and im interested in the elite darks short reset trigger, adjustable night sights, and the aluminum grips, which a sig sales rep told me were slimmer, which i like. And I dont mind a beavertail, im a 1911 fan ater all.

And i dont mind the look of a rail on an elite dark, although i think a p229 (non rail) 2 tone with nickel controls looks real nice.

MT2008 · #4 09-28-2010, 12:34 PM

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The rail is to put a light on for home defense, and i want a 40, not a 9mm, the 9 would just be convienent for price, which would make a conversion cool, and im interested in the elite darks short reset trigger, adjustable night sights, and the aluminum grips, which a sig sales rep told me were slimmer, which i like. And I dont mind a beavertail, im a 1911 fan ater all.

The 229's a wider gun than the 226 or 228 (no matter what grips you have), so if width is a problem, maybe you should at least hold those first to decide.

Night sights and short triggers can be installed on any SIG, even the older ones (I have a short trigger for my 226 that I never use, but I can install it in 5 minutes if I need to). As for the rail, that's your preference. But personally, I think rails look dumb and are useless. And I think flashlights just make the gun front-heavy (especially on a pistol with a barrel as short as the 229's).

k9870 · #5 09-28-2010, 01:49 PM

I dont want a short trigger, i want a short RESET trigger, and the width is not a proble, i just like thinner if possible. Like a standard 1911 is no problem, but slim grips feel better. I like the 229 though, its weight and balance are perect for me and recoil is very low. A light would only be for home defense too, id take it off for range or carry.

FirearmFan · #6 09-29-2010, 05:28 AM

I'd put in a reccomendation for a P229 in .40. I love my P229R. It runs flawless and feels greats in my hands. I don't use the rail, and I don't really plan to but I don't mind it being there. And if I ever want it, then I have it.

k9870 · #7 09-29-2010, 01:57 PM

I love the p229r also, it is the right size, it balances well, absorbs the recoil with enough heft but still light enough it doesnt feel like a brick. I would love a short reset trigger too, its a standard da/sa but only goes forward a little bit to reset, allowing your follow up to be SWEET. i like the standard trigger reach (no short trigger please) and DA/SA pull (DAO and DAK sucks balls.)

Ive never understood the love of W.German guns, sure there not made anymore, but new guns chug on just as reliably.

Gunmaster45 · #8 09-30-2010, 12:19 AM

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The rail is to put a light on for home defense, and i want a 40, not a 9mm, the 9 would just be convienent for price, which would make a conversion cool, and im interested in the elite darks short reset trigger, adjustable night sights, and the aluminum grips, which a sig sales rep told me were slimmer, which i like. And I dont mind a beavertail, im a 1911 fan ater all.

And i dont mind the look of a rail on an elite dark, although i think a p229 (non rail) 2 tone with nickel controls looks real nice.

For home defense, that's not necessarily the best idea. They teach you in classes for home defense training you should hold a light and the gun seperately, and flash the light briefly in a direction you are not facing. This is because if someone should see the light flash, they won't know where you are and track you down in the dark. If the light is attached to the gun, you'd need to point it away to accomplish this same effect when it'd be more of an advantage on an intruder to be able to level the gun on him while the light is not giving away your position. Some may say that the light on the gun means you can blind the person by aiming at them, but they'll still know what general direction you're in, and if they're armed, may fire at that direction, which you should avoid letting happen.

k9870 · #9 09-30-2010, 12:21 AM

GM, where you been? Good to see you back.

And im not going to go around room, im bound to get killed like that. Im going to aim at my door, and wait for police to arrive. If the bad guy enters my room, you have no choice. If they take some stuff, well, im alive.

If i had a family i had to go out and save, its different, but id still want a light on y gun to free a hand for opening doors and such.

Gunmaster45 · #10 09-30-2010, 12:25 AM

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GM, where you been? Good to see you back.

And im not going to go around room, im bound to get killed like that. Im going to aim at my door, and wait for police to arrive. If the bad guy enters my room, you have no choice. If they take some stuff, well, im alive.

If i had a family i had to go out and save, its different, but id still want a light on y gun to free a hand for opening doors and such.

Well that's why I'm thinking differently than you, I live with my family and although my house is small I'd likely have to venture out if someone was breaking in.

I watch a lot of professional training techinques and they tell you how to check your house as safely as possible, going corner by corner as slowly as you can safely, "cutting off slices of a pie" as you go to check every area effectively.