Nazi is a Political party, not a military force!

[Phoenixent]

FCM here are the oath taken by Germans during the reign of Adolf Hitler

Here is the oath by Heer, 1934 to 1945
Soldiers=I swear by God this scared oath: I will render unconditional obedience to Adolf Hitler, the Führer of the German nation and people, Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, and will be ready as a brave soldier to risk my life at my time for this oath.

Here is the oath by Waffen-SS 1941 to 1945
I swear to thee Adolf Hitler as fuhrer and chancellor of the German Reich loyalty and bravery i vow to thee and to the superiors whom thou shalt apoint obedience unto death so help me god

Here is the oath by German Public officials=I swear: I shall be loyal and obedient to Adolf Hitler, the Führer of the German Reich and people, respect the laws and fulfill my official duties conscientiously, so help me God.

Here is the oath by SA =As a member of the storm troop of the NSDAP i pledge myself by its flag to be always ready to stake life and limb in the struggle for the aims of the movement, to give absolute military obedience to my military superiors and leaders, to bear myself honorably in and out of service, to be always companionable towards other comrades.

Here is the oath by Hitlerjugend oath=In the presence of this blood banner, which represents our Fürher, i swear to devote all my energies and my strength to the savior of our country, Adolf Hitler, i am willing and ready to give up my life for him, so help me God.

Here is the oath by NSDAP oath=I pledge Allegiance to my Fürher Adolf Hitler, i promise at all times to show respect and obedience to him and to any leaders he may appoint for me.

Here is the oath by Heer, pre 1934
Soldiers=I swear by almighty God this sacred oath: I will at all times loyally and honestly serve my people and country and, as a brave soldier, I will be ready at any time to stake my life for this oath.

So you can see the that all of Germany swore an oath to this man. So say the SS is the only one that swore an oath to him is incorrect.

[funkychinaman]

I think there may be philosophical differences between swearing to risk your life as a soldier and swearing obedience until death. To me, one is "I'll risk my life for this job while I have it," and the other is "I'm yours to do with until I die." One is for x number of years, and the other is for life. Then again, that's just the way I'm reading it. Why not just take identical oaths then?

It's interesting that the SA didn't swear their oath to Hitler himself, even when he was the undisputed head of the NS movement. But then again, I guess they only changed it after getting rid of the SA.

[funkychinaman]

While I'm not conceding, I just don't see this going anywhere. I'm willing to simply agree to disagree and leave it at that.

[BurtReynoldsMoustache]

Originally Posted by funkychinaman

While I'm not conceding, I just don't see this going anywhere. I'm willing to simply agree to disagree and leave it at that.

Saying "let's agree to disagree" is the coward's way to concede.

[funkychinaman]

No, it's recognizing that no one is making any headway. Isn't discretion the better part of valor?

[MoviePropMaster2008]

Originally Posted by funkychinaman

While I'm not conceding, I just don't see this going anywhere.

Uh, everyone else reached that point many posts ago......

[funkychinaman]

Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008

Uh, everyone else reached that point many posts ago......

Heh, point taken.

[The Wierd It]

Originally Posted by funkychinaman

I think there may be philosophical differences between swearing to risk your life as a soldier and swearing obedience until death. To me, one is "I'll risk my life for this job while I have it," and the other is "I'm yours to do with until I die." One is for x number of years, and the other is for life. Then again, that's just the way I'm reading it. Why not just take identical oaths then?

It's interesting that the SA didn't swear their oath to Hitler himself, even when he was the undisputed head of the NS movement. But then again, I guess they only changed it after getting rid of the SA.

Pretty much. The oath was changed (for the Heer at least) from swearing allegiance to the state to swearing it to the Fuhrer after the death of President Hindenburg on August 2nd 1934, with the Heer as a whole taking the new oath on August 8th, over a month after the Night of the Long Knives.