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Old 07-19-2010, 04:12 PM
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And of course there's also the Ultimax and the Shrike, but I don't know any specifics about them such as weight and whatnot.
Personally I don't like the Ultimax even though I haven't handled one yet. According to the few Singaporeans I've chatted to about it it's a POS that had feeding issues among other things. According to the US Navy 25% ot the stoppages with the Ultimax they tested was from the magazine simply dropping out of the weapon. Basically it looks cool but it's a POS weapon when it gets down to brass tacks.


As far as the Stoner M63 weapons system from what i have read in I belive it was Small Arms Review, durring the 1980's it was tested in some south East Asian country against more recent weapons and it beat the other weapons at everything but the politics.
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As far as the Stoner M63 weapons system from what i have read in I belive it was Small Arms Review, durring the 1980's it was tested in some south East Asian country against more recent weapons and it beat the other weapons at everything but the politics.
It was also used by the Seals in Vietnam.
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Old 07-19-2010, 04:48 PM
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Then maybe we should be giving the M63 a bit more attention today. From what I can gather regarding SEALs testing it in SE Asia, the general consensus seemed to be "it's good, but not exactly what we want" (and this is coming from a group that's pretty picky about what they use anyway).

On a side note, it seems like every article I read about the M27 has comments like "just chamber the BAR in 5.56 and be done with it". Why is everyone so intent on bringing that thing back? Frankly, I'd rather carry the HK around. At least it won't burst into flames on me after a single mag...
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Then maybe we should be giving the M63 a bit more attention today. From what I can gather regarding SEALs testing it in SE Asia, the general consensus seemed to be "it's good, but not exactly what we want" (and this is coming from a group that's pretty picky about what they use anyway).
According to my Nam Encyclopedia, the Stoner had some problems with mud and dust, and had to be cleaned all the time to keep it working (remember that they were in the Mekong).
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