Fictional firearms

[MoviePropMaster2008]

Originally Posted by Excalibur

But Then Aliens Resurrection is another problem to me. MPM restored the page, but honestly it's not even a well done page like Ghost in the Shell. It doesn't have caps for most of the guns or just one small one. It just seems very unimpressive.

The reason is TWO of the rules for Fictional Weapons:
"If they are fictional / hypothetical weapons which may exist in real life but (so far does not)."
"If the weapon (for any reason) would lead the general public to believe that it is a real firearms or based on one. "

Now I don't disagree that the Alien Resurrection page is weak, but there are many weaker pages which should be deleted before that one is. But why I think it needs to be on IMFDB is primarily, when the film came out, a LOT of people thought the weapons were based or built on real guns. That type of confusion is the reason WHY IMFDB exists, to dispel myth and rumor from fact. One person (in the business) mistakenly told me that the main rifle used in the film was built on a Cobray CM11 Carbine, which I actually believed because I could see how the 9mm long barreled M11 carbine could fit into the shell of the gun. So for a long time, I thought the main rifle was built on a Cobray gun. And I can't tell how many people (when the film came out) thought that the take down shotgun used by the guy in the wheelchair was a real firearm. So if not to correct movie trivia regarding firearms (on a REAL MOVIE, not some anime or videogame), then why have IMFDB at all?

Just my 2 cents.

I'm all for deleting the ANIME entries. Like WTF? Like anyone is going to wonder what gun a piece of artwork is based on? Same thing for VGs except for the BFG because it has appeared in actual films.

[Excalibur]

Hey, I did a LOT of work on Black Lagoon and if you have seen the page, you can tell these aren't chicken scratch drawings like South Park or Simpsons.

People have asked me about guns in anime and video games. Why not video games?

[MoviePropMaster2008]

Originally Posted by Excalibur

Hey, I did a LOT of work on Black Lagoon and if you have seen the page, you can tell these aren't chicken scratch drawings like South Park or Simpsons.

And did anyone disparage the QUALITY of the anime artwork? uh. NO.

The point was that a work of ART is not subject to anyone 'wondering' what gun platform the fictional weapon was based on. Any fictional GUN is up to the artists' imagination and frankly, I don't see anyone seriously wondering if any fantasy looking weapon is based on a real one.

The only guns that should be listed from Anime are those which are based on real guns. But it's just so ridiculous that anyone would post a fictional weapon from an anime source. The entire point of the fictional gun section was to educate the public as to what it was based on, built upon, or if it is completely made up special effects prop.

[Excalibur]

But none of the guns in most of the animes are fictional. There might be one here and there but the same thing apply to guns like Hellboy's Samaritan. It isn't a real gun, but might have been based on one.

I also have a problem with some of the guns posted in anime that aren't real or based on anything real, but since we don't have a don't post fictional weapons if they are not real, people do it anyway.

I mean, if a gun looks like this:



It's fine, because it's a real gun.

[MoviePropMaster2008]

Originally Posted by Excalibur

But none of the guns in most of the animes are fictional.

You're arguing over something which no one disagrees with. I said remove the very few FICTIONAL weapons that are from ANIME (from the fictional guns list), not the real guns.



Well, I think we have resolved this issue .... in a really painful and convoluted manner that is......

[AdAstra2009]

I think that fictional weapons should be restricted to the article/movie they appear in and they should not get their own individual page. I mean why would you make a separate page for a weapon that is only going to appear in a single film/series.

[Excalibur]

But then this guy, Stan the man said that there's no rules that specifically prohibits fictional weapons and it would be best to have them on the site to point out that they are not real. How do I respond to that logic?