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02-01-2010, 09:32 PM
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Damn straight. Both calibers have their pros and cons but they're both suitable for their intended roles
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02-01-2010, 09:53 PM
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What about .45 GAP? I've heard it sort of fills a role that doesn't even exist.
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02-01-2010, 09:58 PM
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Last edited by S&Wshooter; 02-01-2010 at 11:18 PM. Reason: spelling
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02-01-2010, 10:33 PM
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The .45 GAP cartridge is ballistically similar to a.45 ACP depending upon the load, just shorter. That being said, it's also a highly proprietary and rare caliber and it's maximum capacities in the Glock pistols that use it is 10 rounds. With that, you're better off with a standard .45 ACP 1911 as you now have a common ammo type, a more than common gun, good ergonomics and a drop of only 2 rounds. It's even better argued if you're a purist or hate safe action pistols, but all in all a 1911 in .45 ACP to me is better than a Glock 37 in .45 GAP.
We've already discussed this at length so I don't know why we brought it up again, but I feel that 9mm overall is the better cartridge from a civilian's economic point of view. You can argue velocity and ballistics and whatever all day, but overall the 9mm is cheaper, more common, and it's easier to find high capacity firearms chambered for it. I like .45 ACP and my 1911 but I like shooting my 9mms more because I can get more rounds for my money (and my magazines). In the military or a few years ago, ballistics might come into play, but then there's modern bullet designs so on and so forth. Overall, 9mm is better for what I do.
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02-01-2010, 11:20 PM
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I'm a .45 guy through and through, but it never hurts to have a 9mm
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02-02-2010, 01:28 AM
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For a compact, I'd stick to 9mm with hollow points. Full size gun I'd use .45
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02-02-2010, 01:36 AM
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I like the versatility of a .357 revolver. Light .38 lrn or wadctters for plinking, .38 +P JHP for home defense, 125 grain 357 mag hollowpoints for self defense, 158 grain hard cast for animal defense. All there in one gun.
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02-03-2010, 05:55 PM
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Also, one other thing about .45 ACP...I don't know how many people here keep and reload their brass, but .45 ACP is a real pain in the ass to get right. Most .45 ACP pistols are pretty finicky about powder content, including my S&W 4506. So doing reloads is pretty hard. My Dad and I have had almost no problems with 9mm reloads in either my Taurus PT92 (when I still owned it) or my SIG 226. Whereas the .45 ACP reloads we did caused stovepipes in my Smithy almost every time we tried them. We used to joke that you had to be accurate to within a few grains of powder.
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02-03-2010, 06:33 PM
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I think the "9mm is weak" thing comes from the military use of FMJ, which is pretty much useless. A modern hollowpoint (Federal HST, speer gold dot) will wreck people. Besides, hitting targets is wayyyy more important than what caliber you use.
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02-05-2010, 04:39 AM
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Well the military compensates for bullet power with training. A well trained soldier would put two to the chest and one to the head. Doesn't matter what kind of bullet.
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