10mm Auto: (Un)fairly ignored?

[Mazryonh]

Okay,

While I'm certain this discussion of which non-10x25mm pistol is the best to carry for whatever reason will be quite productive in another topic, I'd like to see if I can bring this discussion back on topic and get my remaining questions answered.

From what I've read, there seem to be wildly differing opinions on whether this cartridge was difficult to shoot. Here's one account opposing that "difficult to shoot" opinion:

http://www.carryconcealed.net/colt-g...lta-elite-10mm

If indeed more practice could tame this "too-powerful" cartridge, why didn't the FBI just do testing and mandate that the agents without medical problems train well enough with the 10x25mm to score high enough on marksmanship tests? I still think the OHWS program missed a golden opportunity by not choosing the 10x25mm cartridge, since the target market (Special Forces Operators) would have anything but "girly wrists", and definitely could have used the extra range, stopping power, and capacity over the .45 ACP eventually chosen for the program. No, I am not one of those people who say that "every soldier should have a .50 AE Desert Eagle for a backup weapon," but the 10x25mm cartridge still seems to surpass the .45 ACP in every one of those parameters I mentioned, except for the .45 ACP's subsonic velocity and thus greater subtlety when used with a sound suppressor.

The cost of the cartridge, as I said before, is really a commercial decision and originally outside the scope of this discussion, but people making the right decisions can and do get cartridges widely manufactured distributed to the point where they are quite affordable, kind of like how the 5.56x45mm round became a NATO standard despite the opposition from several fronts.

I also happened upon two interesting articles talking about how the 5.56mm round in compact assault rifles has had a low stopping-power-per-bullet ratio, and how adopting a 10mm round from SMGs or carbines could help in Urban combat or peace-keeping. Here they are:

http://www.g2mil.com/park.htm

http://www.g2mil.com/10mm.htm

What about recoil in the SMGs and Pistol-Caliber Carbines? With the greater weight of the firearm, I doubt the recoil would be as much of an issue. Has anyone ever actually fired an SMG or Pistol-Caliber Carbine chambered for 10x25mm? Was it much more difficult than one chambered for 9x19mm or .45 ACP? If converting a firearm from .40 S&W to fire 10x25mm is "no big deal," then why can't Beretta release a 10x25mm conversion kit to change its Cx4 Storm carbines from .40 S&W to 10x25mm?

Here are a few websites selling 10x25mm Pistol-Caliber Carbines:

http://www.paladinarmory.com/SBR.htm

http://www.mechtechsys.com/

http://www.guns-rifles-firearms.com/...es/Page637.htm

Finally I'm also quite confused as to why IMI decided to make the .41 Action Express round, and even to create an Uzi SMG variant when the 10x25mm was already the .41 Magnum's "ballistic twin." In fact, some of the Pistol-Caliber Carbine manufacturers making carbines for 10x25mm are using some of these old Uzi mags!

As always, relevant information would be appreciated.

[S&Wshooter]

I believe it's a cryin' shame that 10mm isn't more common. I'd love to have a 10mm pisto, but the only time I ever see ammo for it is at gunshows

[k9870]

I see 10 ammo at cabelas all the time, its just like 36 bucks a box of 50 fmj, and hollowpoints are rediculously expensive.

I think a 1076 would be a cool gun to own. Ive heard tehre very accurate, reliable and its just cool to be shooting something nobody else has.

[S&Wshooter]

Originally Posted by k9870

I see 10 ammo at cabelas all the time, its just like 36 bucks a box of 50 fmj, and hollowpoints are rediculously expensive.

I think a 1076 would be a cool gun to own. Ive heard tehre very accurate, reliable and its just cool to be shooting something nobody else has.

There aren't any Cabela's stores anywhere near me, so I have to go to Academy, where all they ever have is like 2 boxes of 9mm or I can go to the local cop shop, which never has any ammo

[k9870]

Well....um.....any online places got ammo in stock without huge backorders?

[Mazryonh]

Originally Posted by S&Wshooter

I believe it's a cryin' shame that 10mm isn't more common. I'd love to have a 10mm pisto, but the only time I ever see ammo for it is at gunshows

You should check out the classified sections of the 10x25mm forums that I mentioned in the original page. They often talk about their new purchases in 10mm guns, so it's worth checking out those threads and asking the original posters if the people they bought them from are offering more of them.

Originally Posted by k9870

Well....um.....any online places got ammo in stock without huge backorders?

Then you should try DoubleTap Ammunition's website, but they often stock the "full-power" rounds which you should take some time getting used to.

You could also go here instead, but most of the ammo is on back order.

Cabela's lets you shop online from them as well. If you check out their website, and search for 10mm ammo, you should be able to buy it online from them.

The original post also has an "advocacy article" where the author tests quite a lot of ammunition from various companies, so those are companies you could search for.