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Old 07-19-2009, 01:31 AM
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Hypothetically, lets say, the 1911 never existed, and was just released today. How do you think it would do?

I don't think it would fare very well, personally, at least not for a while. One thing that makes 1911s so popular is how time proven they are for durability and reliability. Problem is, these days everyone wants tacticool guns, high capacity is king, and people dont like SAO. It seems DAO is getting big (to my disappointment, I hate DAO autos) and polymer frames are the norm.

I believe, eventually, though, people would notice its excellent accuracy and trigger, and it would be taken in by target/idpa shooter, and work its way into the mainstream. What do you think.?
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Old 07-19-2009, 02:05 AM
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"Single action? Single stack magazine? No rails? What, was this gun made in the 1800's or something?"
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Old 07-19-2009, 02:29 AM
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If it was made today, who's to say it wouldn't be built with a polymer frame, high capacity magazine, rails, and a DAO/Double-Single trigger? Maybe Para-Ordnance conveys what the 1911 would have been had it been made in this day and age...

We have to keep in mind the 1911 was built when automatics in general were pretty new, today many guns have features that some prefer over the 1911, but we still love it today because it is the basis of all major handgun designs, and has proven capable for almost 100 years, still capable of outperfoming the competition in many roles.
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Old 07-19-2009, 02:48 AM
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Im not fond of double stack 1911s, it makes the grip too wide. Im not a big SAO fan, but on 1911s I really cant see them any other way. And we all know, SAO beats DAO, Im mad that things like glocks and the DAK system and all the other DAOs are so prevalent....
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Old 07-19-2009, 03:31 AM
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Well I don't consider Glocks as being DAO, because they are on half-cock at all times, which allows a pretty good trigger pull and consistency throughout.

And I'm not picky on grip width, and while .45 double stacks are a little wide, it makes reloading easier.
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Old 07-19-2009, 03:38 AM
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The single stack just fits right in my hand. Maybe a grip using polymers could be a bit thinner though. I heard the FNP-45 is quite slim for a double stack because of this. And glock triggers feel...weird. Their grip angle....who desighned that? Its seriously awful. the barrels, well, just replace them. Not to mention gatson produces them for 55 bucks and sells em for 500
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Eh, it's the father of all high-capacity tupperware guns, so you gotta give it that respect.
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Old 07-19-2009, 04:44 AM
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Sorry John,
The VP-70 came long before the Glock 17 came into existance.
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Old 07-19-2009, 05:12 AM
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I don't think it would do so bad.

Look at the Kahr Arms series, their weapons are similar/simplistic to the 1911 in that they don't have rails, are fullmetal as oppose to polymer, single stack, etc -but they did pretty well considering they started up in 1995.
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Sorry John,
The VP-70 came long before the Glock 17 came into existance.
I said high-capacity polymer guns. And from what I recall, the VP-70 can't shoot underwater or operate flawlessy after being soaked in salt water for a week, cleaned, and then fired.
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