Dongs is a tyrant

[PersonOfInterest]

Labelling it as "Fictional Sniper Rifle" solves the problem completely.

It's semiautomatic, has wooden furniture, and is used by the Russians. Is it an SVD?

It has an 8 round magazine. Is it an M1D or M1C?

It has a silencer. Is it a VSS?

It's nothing. Nothing at all. Just a "sniper rifle".

[Vangelis]

Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest

It's semiautomatic, has wooden furniture, and is used by the Russians. Is it an SVD?

The line of thought I was going for was 'used by James Bond' [he starts Surface 1 with it] therefore English, therefore L96A1, and the resemblance being what clinches it, but I can see how if you don't think along those lines you can end up somewhere completly different. The semi-auto isn't really an issue since even the pump action shotgun in Goldeneye ended up semi auto, and the wooden furniture similar; Goldeneye has a P90 with wooden furniture.

[AdAstra2009]

Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest

Labelling it as "Fictional Sniper Rifle" solves the problem completely.

It's semiautomatic, has wooden furniture, and is used by the Russians. Is it an SVD?

It has an 8 round magazine. Is it an M1D or M1C?

It has a silencer. Is it a VSS?

It's nothing. Nothing at all. Just a "sniper rifle".

I agree --------

[Vangelis]

I do think the way PersonOfInterest edited it wasn't really right either, however; sure, we've established there isn't enough detail to tell what it is, but that doesn't mean we can declare it was never supposed to be anything as he did [in particular we can't say it specifically isn't supposed to be a bolt-action, given this is a game with a semi-auto pump shotgun]; all we can say is we can't tell what it is and have no concrete evidence it was supposed to be anything. I've re-worded it as:

The "Sniper Rifle" is a silenced semi-automatic sniper rifle with wooden furniture; it bears a passing resemblance to a couple of real-life sniper rifles, but none clearly enough to make a good judgement as to precisely what it was based on. Notably, the midsection is completely undetailled, the weapon having no clear action or magazine location.

Which is about the best we can say until someone from Rare comes in and admits it was based on a Beretta Inox and they stopped putting cactus venom in the vending machines after that day.

[AdAstra2009]

Originally Posted by Vangelis

Which is about the best we can say until someone from Rare comes in and admits it was based on a Beretta Inox and they stopped putting cactus venom in the vending machines after that day.

I bet they'd think "why would anyone give a crap what it was"

[PersonOfInterest]

Originally Posted by Vangelis

I do think the way PersonOfInterest edited it wasn't really right either, however; sure, we've established there isn't enough detail to tell what it is, but that doesn't mean we can declare it was never supposed to be anything as he did [in particular we can't say it specifically isn't supposed to be a bolt-action, given this is a game with a semi-auto pump shotgun];

The "semiautomatic pump shotgun" isn't really "in the game". It does not appear in either single player or multiplayer and can only be accessed with a cheat.

Rare probably decided to toss it, but forgot to remove it completely. So really its irrelevant.

[Vangelis]

Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest

Rare probably decided to toss it, but forgot to remove it completely. So really its irrelevant.

Regardless, though, there's no weapon in the game which has any animation related to operating it; they're all just blocks which bullets come out of one end of. That would mean any bolt-action weapon would either end up being shown as semi-auto or as reloading after every shot.

Having thought about it, I can see the reason for the wood furniture; it's a hardware limitation. The N64's texture cache is 4 kilobytes [that's the size of four of this board's smilies; less than four for some] which means stupid economies have to be made; Mario N64 did it by flat-shading a lot of surfaces, Turok did it with aggressive distance masking, Goldeneye by sharing textures between the weapons and the levels; almost every level has a large number of items made of wood in it.

It's certainly hard to tell what these older games are trying to do, though, and even harder if you don't know what the intent behind them is. Case in point, can you tell me what aircraft this is?



Oh, also:

Originally Posted by Rockwolf66

Still if you get ahold of the new Fallout 1,2 & Tactics pack or Jagged Alliance 2:Unfinished Buisiness feel free to upgrade the pages.

I'm mostly running through my list of first-person shooters; I had a lot of shots of Crysis already since I was showing a friend how my new PC ran, and Far Cry seemed the next logical step. Both handily have a screenshot function built in [though you have to put Far Cry into devmode to use it]. I was thinking of re-capping Call of Duty 4 next, actually, since a lot of the images we have are googled and have watermarks from other sites on them.

[Spartan198]

Originally Posted by Vangelis

It's certainly hard to tell what these older games are trying to do, though, and even harder if you don't know what the intent behind them is. Case in point, can you tell me what aircraft this is?

A EF-2000 Typhoon with two stabilizer fins instead of one.

[ManiacallyChallenged]

I have NO idea what kind of airplane that is.

I think Dongs certainly has caused enough havoc for one lifetime, perhaps he should be drawn and quartered. The old N64 shooters are pretty poor looking, probably the best was TWINE, but even so...