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NOTICE: We've been mis-IDing M249s...
Steve just corrected me on a mistake that we've been making on our pages for a long time. It seems that a whole bunch of the machine guns which we've been identifying as "M249s" or "FN Minimis" in movies are actually not FN weapons at all, but rather these:
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Daewoo_K3 So far, I've found that the "M249s" in the movies "3000 Miles to Graceland", "Walking Tall", "American Dragons", "AvP: Requiem", "Postal", and both of the "Stargate" TV shows are actually Daewoo K3s. Most of them have been given fake M249 Paratrooper-style buttstocks, shortened barrels, and flash hiders. Just thought I'd tell you guys. Realizing this mistake has totally turned my world upside-down tonight... Last edited by MT2008; 06-16-2009 at 03:57 AM. |
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Damn, this is big. Changes how we look at M249s
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I know, and I should've figured it out a long time ago. My faith in my ability to properly identify guns has been ruined. Clearly, I am unworthy of being an admin here...
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Who is steve and what are the tale-tale signs of a K3 disguised as an Minimi/M249
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I first figured it out when I noticed some LMGs we called M249s had front sights that didn't look Minimi/M249-style. The K3's front sight post is different from the side. Also, the K3s disguised as M249s have a fake stock which looks different from the M249 Paratrooper stock. "3000 Miles to Graceland" and "Walking Tall" (both of which have good screenshots on their IMFDB pages) are probably the best movies to spot these differences. |
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Here are some "M249s" in movies/TV shows that are actually Daewoo K3s made to look like M249s:
3000 Miles to Graceland: Stargate: Atlantis Walking Tall: Also, note the front sight of the guns in "Walking Tall"; this is probably the best close-up I've found illustrating the difference. The front sight on the Minimi/M249 is a different shape from the side. |
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'member who capped that page? I figured I'd bunch all of the gun images together for instant comparison: FN M249 Para - 5.56x45mm. Daewoo K3 - 5.56x45mm.
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Last edited by Gunmaster45; 06-16-2009 at 06:38 PM. |
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So far i have noticed that the front and rear sights are different, the angle of the pistol grips are different and the bipod is of a different design. the SPW versions have a none M-249PARA stock and and the none rail fore ends have a half circle taken out of them on the M-249.
have i missed anything? |
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As best I can tell, the ones in "3000 Miles to Graceland" and "Walking Tall" are fitted with scratch-built stocks and shorter barrels. These are all visual modifications made by the armorers, so that they'll look more like M249 Paras. The one in "Stargate: Atlantis" does have a real M249 Para stock, though... Other than that, you're right on. |
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I know, I know, and I remember you weren't sure, either, and then I told you they were FN Minimi SPWs. Even back then, I remember looking at them and thinking they didn't look exactly like Minimi variants at all.
And the lesson is, I need to act on my eagle eyes a little more... |
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