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Old 09-03-2010, 03:01 AM
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Who do you think would win if they fought each other? You'd have to rule out gadget (Bond wins by killing the other 2 with a hail of fire from his remote-control, bullet-proof flying car, then finishes them off with his wrist dart gun) or supporting organizations (Bourne hasn't got one and the other can use satellites to "cheat"). Disclaimer: I've seen all 3 Bourne movies, the first 7 hours of Season 1 of 24, and no James Bond films.
Personally, I think Bond and Bauer have been around too long. Bond, who's still around only due to stupid villains and bad guys who can't shoot straight, should at least (after 22 Bond girls) have an STD that forces him to retire and Bauer should either be in prison for ignoring the law to bring down various criminals or retired after season 5. How does a guy spend 18 months getting tortured in a Chinese prison and get his job back? The Chinese should know EVERYTHING about CTU and he should be a total wreck.
As for their weapon, Bond is a a disadvantage, since he has a little 32. PPK, rather than the 9mm weapons that Jason and Lack prefer. Also, Bond has wildly stupid villains (irradiate the gold in Fort Knox to drive up the price of gold worldwide? Wipe out all mankind from space? and other dumb plots) and is dumb himself. Spies/assassins don't walk into a bar, have drink with their target, and announce that they're the guy who took out 15 other maniacal billionaires. Bauer? Let's see: in the beginning of season 1, his boss is ambushed in a building and calls Jack. Rather than get a half-dozen co-workers to help him, he goes alone, with just a pistol. Uh, I thought the No. 2 rule of gunfights, right after "bring a gun", is "bring a bigger gun than the other guy" So he goes, boss gets killed, and Jack take the incriminating card back with him...only to confide in the PERSON THE CARD SAID WAS THE BAD GUY!!! Anyway, Bourne improvises, never breaks a law if he can help it (Not often, I admit) and generally seems much smarter that the other two guys. Jason just seems like a more intelligent person and a better spy.

Sorry if this seems disjointed, confused, or biased, it's late. And please no other film characters either.
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Old 09-03-2010, 06:22 AM
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I think both Bourne and Bauer are significantly more badass than Bond. Don't get me wrong I like all the Bond movies and the new Daniel Craig version of Bond is a bit more hardcore but I don't think he stands up to Bourne or Bauer.

Bourne is highly trained in multiple facets of kick-assery including short and long range weapons and hand to hand combat. I believe in the movies he used a modified form of Eskrima/Kali.

Bauer is also highly trained with years of military and law enforcement experience including Special Forces and S.W.A.T. prior to his years in Counter Terrorism if my memory serves me correctly.

The one advantage I see for Bauer over Bourne is that he is much more ruthless. If a puppy were to get in the way of Bauer and his enemy he would kill the puppy and use its body to beat his enemy to death, whereas I think Bourne might pet it and maybe try to help find its owner. Hand to hand without guns though I don't think Jack could take Jason.
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Old 09-03-2010, 01:14 PM
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You need to WATCH at least one Bond movie for your argument to count.
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Old 09-03-2010, 01:37 PM
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Bond now uses a 9mm, the last two he had walther P99. Boure and bond could take bauer in hand to hand...with guns it would be whoever would have the drop...and you forgot one little detail...Ethan Hunt would kill them all!
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Old 09-03-2010, 01:43 PM
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Thanks, I'm not interested. First, for the same reason I've never tried watching Star Trek: Too many movies. Trilogy, OK. 22 movies? I'll pass. Also, I'm not interested in a guy who thinks a .32 ACP is worth carrying when he knows he's going to have to shoot someone, can't accomplish anything without a magic gadget, and only fights stupid villains while having sex with beautiful woman with embarrassingly stupid names. I have read Dr. No (the book). Anyway, who do you think would win?
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Old 09-03-2010, 01:46 PM
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I said, please no other movie characters. I don't want a 8-way fight because everyone adds their own favorite character. Start a new thread if you want, but leave this one to the three J.B.s
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Old 09-03-2010, 02:42 PM
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If your not interested in a guy who thinks a .32 ACP is worth carrying then why are you asking about him. Whats the point of this if you just trash talk a character that you dont know much about. Your comparing modern day character to a guy that got his claim to fame in the 60's and 70's and you dont want to hear what bond has become in recent years with Craig. Real answer...based on what they can do...Bourne wins...Bauer is just a lost boy on the small screen...and Bond is damn near a God level with his unbeatable tactics in 22 movies and counting that he wouldn't even show up to the fight because there aint no ladies.
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Old 09-04-2010, 02:00 AM
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Bourne, no contest.

Bond vs. Bauer would be quite the fun fight to see, as neither of them would be willing to give an inch. However, in just a straight hand-to-hand throwdown, they'd have to probably shoot Bourne in the back first to have a shot.
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Old 09-04-2010, 04:48 PM
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For Bond if we assume it's Rodger Moore, He'd get his ass kicked in the first 5 seconds. He just sex and gadgets. Sean Connery wasn't that impressive and Pierce Brosnan was a better shooting Rodger. So that just leaves Daniel Craig.

So I'm assuming they all meet in a room and need to kill each other. Assuming Bond isn't hung over, He and Bourne get into a fist fight and it's a tie since they have the same style. Bauer would then tie them up and interrogate them. Since Daniel Craig bond doesn't use gadgets he can't escape but Bourne probably could. Bourne then takes out Bauer while his back is turned and ties up Bauer and leave him for dead with Bond. Bourne then laves with a newspaper in the toaster and the oven on. Bauer will somehow escape and snipe Bourne with a SCAR L from really far away. Or a pistol. He can do both.

TL, DR, Bauer since he's better at mid to long range and can survive having the sh*t kicked out of him. Bourne puts up a great fight. Bond hasn't proven himself against competent people in any movie.
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Old 09-04-2010, 04:50 PM
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Jack Bauer needs to learn that there are other ways of getting answers besides torture.
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