Wayyyyy to many video games

[Excalibur]

Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest

it's that we have no criteria for who is allowed to edit the site. All the more reason to adopt some sort of troll filtering system.

We do have the "Rules, Standards and Principles" section. But I guess no one reads it and thinks it's decoration for the Main Page

[PersonOfInterest]

Originally Posted by Excalibur

We do have the "Rules, Standards and Principles" section. But I guess no one reads it and thinks it's decoration for the Main Page

Stupid people are less inclined to read things.

[S&Wshooter]

Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest

Stupid people are less inclined to read things.

[Rockwolf66]

Originally Posted by Markost

I can´t find the original Counter-Strike page. Where the hell is it?

Well we have Counter Strike Source, and having played both counter strike and counter strike source I can honestly say that the only real difference is that source has better graphics and two new guns. We do not need 80 bazillion pages dedicated to videogames that are just improvements of one another.

Can you tell the difference in the images?

[AdAstra2009]

Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008

I was never in support of including games because, regardless of what game fans say, THEY'RE NOT REAL GUNS. They will ALWAYS be the product of some artist's imagination. If the Artist does a good and accurate depiction of a real gun, so what? What do we get from tracking that information? What does it tell us?

The real world movies, by their nature, have to have REAL THREE DIMENSIONAL WEAPONS. So it is interesting to know what weapons were in what movie and also, how did they get the guns? (many myths have been answered on IMFDB (fake mockups, C&C HK94s, using Chinese AKs for Russian, fake DShKs from M2s, etc. etc.) those are more pertinent because people really do wonder where they came from. NO ONE wonders where a two dimensional artwork came from. Duh. It came from the fingers of the artist.

my sentiments exactly

Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest

IMDB lists TV shows, video games, even porn. Why shouldn't we. (I think we can forget about porn but you get the idea.) The problem isn't that we list video games, it's that we have no criteria for who is allowed to edit the site. All the more reason to adopt some sort of troll filtering system.

We aren't IMDB

[PersonOfInterest]

Originally Posted by AdAstra2009

We aren't IMDB

That's not a counterpoint. If your entire argument is that we are the Internet MOVIE Firearms Database, then we shouldn't have TV shows either. If the rationale is that animated/rendered firearms aren't physically real, then no video games or animated movies or animated television shows or anime should be allowed at all. It's Propmaster's site, so if he was opposed to video games from the beginning I don't understand why he gave in.

[PersonOfInterest]

Just realized MPM isn't even a moderator here. So who actually does run this site?

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest

Just realized MPM isn't even a moderator here. So who actually does run this site?

Chris (Bunni) is the owner of the site. MPM is an administrator, which means that he is one of the people in charge of day-to-day operations.

Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest

That's not a counterpoint. If your entire argument is that we are the Internet MOVIE Firearms Database, then we shouldn't have TV shows either. If the rationale is that animated/rendered firearms aren't physically real, then no video games or animated movies or animated television shows or anime should be allowed at all. It's Propmaster's site, so if he was opposed to video games from the beginning I don't understand why he gave in.

Not all of the other Admins (there's about a dozen of us) feel the same way as MPM. Personally, I am not opposed to having video games on here. Even though the guns in video games are created by artists and do not exist in physical reality, the purpose of IMFDB is to identify weapons in the media. Since video games often don't use the real names of firearms (i.e. the AK-47 is called a "KF7" in Goldeneye for the N64), we are doing people a favor by telling them what weapons the games are depicting.

That being said, I agree with MPM and Checkman on one thing: Because many video game pages are often done by kids (under 18), we do seem to have to baby-sit those folks more than we do other members. I can't count the number of times I've had to delete poorly-done video game pages, or how many times I've had to tell users who created those pages to stick to the rules. It sort of comes with the territory, and it can be frustrating at times.

[Markost]

The Cs: Online page is crap. I´m editing it.

[Mazryonh]

Originally Posted by MT2008

That being said, I agree with MPM and Checkman on one thing: Because many video game pages are often done by kids (under 18), we do seem to have to baby-sit those folks more than we do other members. I can't count the number of times I've had to delete poorly-done video game pages, or how many times I've had to tell users who created those pages to stick to the rules. It sort of comes with the territory, and it can be frustrating at times.

Well, I hope that there are, or will be, more creators and editors of Video Game pages that take the time to provide good screenshots and accurate info for a page, and if a certain firearm's exact identity is in doubt, that they take the time and effort to post informative screenshots to help the experts here make a conclusive identification. The "couldn't care less crowd" certainly isn't helping the users here who actually take the time and trouble to make useful and informative pages. Should there be a "probationary period" where new users have to first submit drafts for approval if they want to make new pages? That could prevent a lot of the junk pages from arising in the first place.

I hope that the entire Video Game category won't be jeapordized by the "couldn't care less crowd." I've put some work into it, and would hate to see it go to the cyberspace trash heap.