imfdb.org  

Go Back   imfdb.org > The Forum > imfdb

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-24-2010, 02:50 AM
MT2008's Avatar
MT2008 MT2008 is offline
IMFDB & Forum Admin
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,612
Default IMFDB/Golden Closet deal - more screen-used guns!

Hi, guys. I apologize for how busy I've been lately and how little time I've had for IMFDB. 2nd year of grad school is starting soon.

Anyway, earlier tonight, I talked to Breanna Livie, who is the CEO of the Golden Closet. They specialize in appraising and selling screen-used props from movies and TV shows. Their web site is here:

http://www.thegoldencloset.com/

Breanna has agreed to provide us with pictures of new screen-used prop weapons that her company has acquired, including some weapons from classic movies. In exchange, we'll promote the Golden Closet and link to their pages for the weapons. She can also provide us with documentation. So far, she's already been able to correct us on some mistakes for certain pages: She's told me that "Scarface" used a Beretta 81 (not an 84 BB, as we said previously), and that the fake M203 in that movie (which she is selling) was also used on "Predator".

I'll have updates soon, I hope.
__________________
Cry "Havoc," and let slip the hogs of war.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-24-2010, 04:35 AM
Rockwolf66's Avatar
Rockwolf66 Rockwolf66 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Oregon
Posts: 813
Default

Rock on Matt, rock the heck on dude.

Now that's some good news to the rest of us. Basically it means that the efforts of those of us who want the best informational firearms and film site on the web have gotten a major boost. What's next someone asking us on advice on a show about Firearms in film throughout the previous century or so?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-24-2010, 05:07 AM
Spartan198's Avatar
Spartan198 Spartan198 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The scorched state of California
Posts: 2,303
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MT2008 View Post
She's told me that "Scarface" used a Beretta 81 (not an 84 BB, as we said previously), and that the fake M203 in that movie (which she is selling) was also used on "Predator".
There seems to be some kind of inconsistency with this. It states on the Mossberg 500 entry on the Predator page that the faux M203 doesn't open in the same manner as the real M203, yet Tony is repeatedly shown opening, loading, and closing his M203 which is supposedly the same type of launcher. So either the Predator page is wrong or that isn't the launcher used in Scarface.
__________________
"Everything is impossible until somebody does it - Batman

RIP Kevin Conroy, the one true Batman

Last edited by Spartan198; 08-24-2010 at 05:10 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-24-2010, 06:20 AM
MoviePropMaster2008's Avatar
MoviePropMaster2008 MoviePropMaster2008 is offline
IMFDB Admin
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: California
Posts: 1,192
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartan198 View Post
There seems to be some kind of inconsistency with this. It states on the Mossberg 500 entry on the Predator page that the faux M203 doesn't open in the same manner as the real M203, yet Tony is repeatedly shown opening, loading, and closing his M203 which is supposedly the same type of launcher. So either the Predator page is wrong or that isn't the launcher used in Scarface.
Well I certainly didn't write that excerpt on the Mossberg 500 section of Predator. And I kinda don't know what in the world they are talking about.

Those launchers OPEN and SHUT like the real thing. But the mechanism is a custom job and looks very different from the REAL McCoy (M203). I know I handled it when I took a photo of the launcher for IMFDB. Also the launcher that this props store has is one of SEVERAL that could have been used in each film. Multiple launchers were made and used in each production. I was the one who wrote that per screenshots, it is clear that several launchers are used being that their paint, scuffs, wear areas and marks change from shot to shot. I know ONE of them was in CW's case.

Edit: Did you guys notice the weird comment on their site about swapping out the AR-15 from the M16 because they could synchronize it to the movie camera better? WTF? All the weapons were full auto. A converted AR-15 is pretty much the same mechanically as an M16. Back in the day, they would have electronic solenoid triggers that would synchronize a gun flash with the shutter of a movie camera. That way they were guaranteed that every flash was caught on film. It was complicated and a total pain in the ass. But the paragraph on the page, seems to imply that an full auto converted AR-15 was a totally different weapon design than an M16, which it is not. Anyone else think that was a weird comment?

Last edited by MoviePropMaster2008; 08-24-2010 at 06:30 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-24-2010, 02:29 PM
MT2008's Avatar
MT2008 MT2008 is offline
IMFDB & Forum Admin
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,612
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008 View Post
Well I certainly didn't write that excerpt on the Mossberg 500 section of Predator. And I kinda don't know what in the world they are talking about.

Those launchers OPEN and SHUT like the real thing. But the mechanism is a custom job and looks very different from the REAL McCoy (M203). I know I handled it when I took a photo of the launcher for IMFDB. Also the launcher that this props store has is one of SEVERAL that could have been used in each film. Multiple launchers were made and used in each production. I was the one who wrote that per screenshots, it is clear that several launchers are used being that their paint, scuffs, wear areas and marks change from shot to shot. I know ONE of them was in CW's case.

Edit: Did you guys notice the weird comment on their site about swapping out the AR-15 from the M16 because they could synchronize it to the movie camera better? WTF? All the weapons were full auto. A converted AR-15 is pretty much the same mechanically as an M16. Back in the day, they would have electronic solenoid triggers that would synchronize a gun flash with the shutter of a movie camera. That way they were guaranteed that every flash was caught on film. It was complicated and a total pain in the ass. But the paragraph on the page, seems to imply that an full auto converted AR-15 was a totally different weapon design than an M16, which it is not. Anyone else think that was a weird comment?
I've been told that there was four fake M203s built. I'm guessing that none were exactly alike. But according to her documentation, it looks like at least some of those launchers (which were originally made for "Scarface") got rented out to "Predator".

I'll be receiving the documentation on the "Scarface" weapons soon, so I can tell you more. But according to her, the "Scarface" M16 was a converted AR-15. Keep in mind that she's not exactly a gun expert (her family business is actually costuming, though she's very well-connected and has access to almost everything).
__________________
Cry "Havoc," and let slip the hogs of war.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-24-2010, 04:51 PM
MoviePropMaster2008's Avatar
MoviePropMaster2008 MoviePropMaster2008 is offline
IMFDB Admin
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: California
Posts: 1,192
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MT2008 View Post
I've been told that there was four fake M203s built. I'm guessing that none were exactly alike. But according to her documentation, it looks like at least some of those launchers (which were originally made for "Scarface") got rented out to "Predator".
Those launchers were the only game in town for most of the 1980s, until Cobray ramped up with their CM203/CM2037 Imp Launchers. I am sure that multiple productions used that batch of custom built M203s. Now I never used them, but obviously I've spoken to people who did so any details listed were taken from comments/verbal quotes on the launchers. I DO tend to prefer official records (which is good that she keeps them handy) rather than the memory of industry professionals (many of which are getting up there in age )
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-24-2010, 09:38 PM
AdAstra2009's Avatar
AdAstra2009 AdAstra2009 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,067
Default

Nice job on that mt2008.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-25-2010, 03:12 AM
Phoenixent Phoenixent is offline
IMFDB Admin
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: California
Posts: 164
Default

Good Job Matt..
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-25-2010, 03:22 AM
MT2008's Avatar
MT2008 MT2008 is offline
IMFDB & Forum Admin
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,612
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenixent View Post
Good Job Matt..
Oops, sorry, almost forgot. Thanks for the help*.




*understatement of the decade
__________________
Cry "Havoc," and let slip the hogs of war.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-23-2010, 01:16 AM
MT2008's Avatar
MT2008 MT2008 is offline
IMFDB & Forum Admin
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,612
Default

Alright, for those who haven't seen 'em yet, check out the pages for "Salt" and "Scarface". I have new screen-used gun images from those movies which I just uploaded.

The "Salt" guns are all ones that GC is selling, while the "Scarface" Beretta pics are exclusive to us.
__________________
Cry "Havoc," and let slip the hogs of war.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:59 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.