Bad news from the UK: Gunman shoots 12

[MT2008]

This is really horrible. And we all know what's gonna happen. Even with the Conservatives in power, new gun laws are inevitable (recall that Hungerford took place under Thatcher).

Originally Posted by MoviePropMaster2008

The 2nd Amendment (and the political efforts of many good people) has stopped them, from going any farther, but I fear that eventually they will wipe out all ownership. So The brits didn't corner the market on stupid people and politicians.

I don't. The United States is not the United Kingdom, so comparing the two is apples and oranges. In a few states (like California), things may continue to get worse, but I doubt there will ever be any serious, sweeping gun ban at the FEDERAL level. It would just be too unpopular.

Originally Posted by Excalibur

See, it's the quiet people you've gotta watch out for. The type that doesn't take much, "keeps to himself". Yeah those are the guys that somehow like a cliche ends up being the killers.

There's no "cliche", not even for the "quiet" types. The Secret Service has studied mass killers for years now, and they've repeatedly concluded that there is absolutely no profile for these people, besides the fact that they're always male, and have some type of grievance (legitimate or not).

[Excalibur]

Originally Posted by MT2008

I don't. The United States is not the United Kingdom, so comparing the two is apples and oranges. In a few states (like California), things may continue to get worse, but I doubt there will ever be any serious, sweeping gun ban at the FEDERAL level. It would just be too unpopular.

Apples and Oranges? More like a Fruit to a Cheese burger. The fact that this country is so big and with so many factions and chaos of people trying to make the world run their way, restricting guns like the UK has done can never happen. They tried to make laws in Chicago that pretty much bans handguns, but doesn't legally state that until that law was overturned because it was unconstitutional. Any suggestions or million march or some fat, old ultra feminist that wants to get rid of all guns and let only the government have the guns and swear all our safety to the big man in DC. Cause that's what I want to do in this country, trust that when I have a mad man that wants to kill me for my money or is just a killer, I want to trust my life and soul and the life of my family that the cops will get here in time, so I don't need a shotgun.

[MT2008]

Originally Posted by Excalibur

Apples and Oranges? More like a Fruit to a Cheese burger. The fact that this country is so big and with so many factions and chaos of people trying to make the world run their way, restricting guns like the UK has done can never happen. They tried to make laws in Chicago that pretty much bans handguns, but doesn't legally state that until that law was overturned because it was unconstitutional. Any suggestions or million march or some fat, old ultra feminist that wants to get rid of all guns and let only the government have the guns and swear all our safety to the big man in DC. Cause that's what I want to do in this country, trust that when I have a mad man that wants to kill me for my money or is just a killer, I want to trust my life and soul and the life of my family that the cops will get here in time, so I don't need a shotgun.

Long-winded way of agreeing with me, but...yes.

[Excalibur]

Originally Posted by MT2008

Long-winded way of agreeing with me, but...yes.

Sorry, I tend to rant on a bit when it comes to stupid laws passed because people are so paranoid and it surprises them that it doesn't stop crime.

"Oh, how could there be a school shooting. That was GUN-FREE, zone." kind of mentality.

[ManiacallyChallenged]

"600,000 people legally own a shotgun, and just over 100,000 a firearm."

A firearm vs a shotgun... there's a head scratch-er for y'all.

Anyway, I guess the British could decide to re-do the entire country in Nerf(R). Nerf(R) cars can't be used for hit and run, Nerf(R) bottles would be leaky, but entirely non-lethal...
This situation clearly indicates: It's Nerf(R) or nothing!

Did he shoot 12 people? Or did he shoot 11 people and himself? There seems to be a difference there.

[S&Wshooter]

Originally Posted by ManiacallyChallenged

"600,000 people legally own a shotgun, and just over 100,000 a firearm."

A firearm vs a shotgun... there's a head scratch-er for y'all.

Anyway, I guess the British could decide to re-do the entire country in Nerf(R). Nerf(R) cars can't be used for hit and run, Nerf(R) bottles would be leaky, but entirely non-lethal...
This situation clearly indicates: It's Nerf(R) or nothing!

Did he shoot 12 people? Or did he shoot 11 people and himself? There seems to be a difference there.

Just think, I could easily go over there and take the whole think over

[S&Wshooter]

Oh shit, did I just say that out loud? Attention fellow gun nuts: I am totally not going to go take over Britain

[Spartan198]

Originally Posted by S&Wshooter

Oh shit, did I just say that out loud? Attention fellow gun nuts: I am totally not going to go take over Britain

Neither am I. We need to focus on Canada first.

(No offense, Nyles. Just jesting )

[S&Wshooter]

Originally Posted by Spartan198

Neither am I. We need to focus on Canada first.

(No offense, Nyles. Just jesting )

Canada would destroy us, and they'd be polite about it too