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Old 11-26-2009, 02:25 AM
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I'm a moderate conservative (which makes me an endangered species in the United States).

I do not belong to any political party.

My wife (and mother of our two kids) for the past eighteen years is a liberal, intelligent and a very capable person. We're different and we compliment each other. I'm glad I didn't let my politcal beliefs influence me when I decided to propose to her. That would have been stupid and pathetic.

I've been a member of the National Rifle Association for the past eleven years.

I like the 45acp, but prefer to carry the GLOCK 19. I really like revolvers so I guess that dates me. Mentally if not physically.

I don't belong to any church, but I consider myself to be a Christian. However I don't gove two hoots about specific ideology/dogma.

I like to watch Robert Redford movies and Chuck Heston moves. I am also a fan of Gregory Peck, Henry Fonda, Steve McQueen, John Wayne, Tom Hanks, Clint Eastwood, George Clooney and Bruce Willis.

I am a cop and served fourteen years in the United States Army, but I don't have blind faith in our political leadership.

But most of all I'm a big fan of Ruben Sandwiches with french fries and a good cup of coffee.

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Old 11-26-2009, 02:40 AM
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George Clooney. I've not got anything against him politically, but I shit you not, he sat next to me at a theatre and was such an asshole. I was just a kid, and he was a huge douche to me.
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Old 11-26-2009, 02:46 AM
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Well, i donīt belong to any political party, last time I voted was for the middle-left, and I define myself as a nationalist, not liberal.

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Old 11-26-2009, 02:53 AM
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Well, i donīt belong to any political party, last time I voted was for the middle-left, and I define myself as a nacionalist, not liberal.
what is a nacionalist? I couldn't find anything on google.
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Old 11-26-2009, 03:02 AM
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what is a nacionalist? I couldn't find anything on google.
Sorry, my bad english. "Nationalist"
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Old 11-26-2009, 07:05 AM
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One politician who has become a real pain in the ass is Pat Robertson. He's on The 700 Club and says the most stupidiest things (his mother probbaly drank while pregnant with him). He's says that if we accept homosexuality it'll bring hurricanes, eartquakes, and meoters. He describs feminism as a "socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave thier husbands, kill thier children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians" while I think feminism is a movement for the social advancement of women. He thinks that the 9/11 attacks were caused by pagans, abortionists, feminists, gays, lesbians, the American Civil Liberties Union, and the People For the American Ways. He calls Scotland a darkland full of homosexuals. He says the religions of Hinduism and Islam "demonic and satanic" (this offends me because one of my friends in 7t grade was blind Indian girl whose religion was Hindu). I hate this worthless bastard as much as I ate South Park (which I dispies).

Hey Checkman, I prefer a Five Guys cheeseburger with ketchup, french fries, and a Coke Zero.
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Old 11-26-2009, 09:45 AM
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Guess if I had to pick a classification it would be moderate Libertarian. I support individual rights in most forms, whether it be gun ownership, abortion, low taxes, legalization of marijuana (don't use it myself, but I don't have any particular problem with it). That said I think your rights end where someone else's begin, so I'm also pretty pro-police and military.

I don't like the religious right, I don't have a lot of trust in organized religion, and I'm not a believer, but by the same token I think religion on a personal level can be a very good thing for some. So as much as I dislike Pat Robertson, I also dislike Richard Dawkins.

Canada never went to Iraq (and with a small military it was Iraq or Afghanistan), so it's not as big a deal here. That said I don't believe Iraq was involved in 9/11 or had weapons of mass destruction, but I think taken as a whole western involvement there has been a good thing. As for Afghanistan, I've seen firsthand that the Taliban are the closest thing to pure evil you will find in the world today, but in all honesty I'm starting to have serious doubts that we'll ever be able to stabilize Afghanistan. I think to do it we'd have to stay for about 25 years, and realistically that is not going to happen.

I vote Conservative in our elections, though I have serious doubts about the party. I hate the Liberals for their corruption, their arrogance and what they did to the military and gun owners in the 90s. I think the socialists (NDP) are pie-in-the-sky idealists who could not successfully govern my country. That leaves the conservatives, so they get my vote in spite of the fact that I think their actual governance hasn't been much more honest than the liberals.
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Old 11-26-2009, 05:44 PM
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I'm all for closing our borders and cutting illegal immigration off. I live in California and the place has gone bankrupt supporting Mexico.
Seriously? Close the borders? What's so bad about illegal immigrants? While they don't pay taxes they give the United States almost free labour. Immigrants aren't coming over the borders to destroy the country. They don't pay taxes (We are talking about illegal ones), yes, but if that's the only complaint about immigrants, then it doesn't really make any sense because those could be easily fixed. And I still don't know what's so bad about "too many immigrants". Is it because a lot of them don't speak english? Because that's the only thing that I hate about illegal immigrants and normal immigrants too.
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Old 11-26-2009, 09:56 PM
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Seriously? Close the borders? What's so bad about illegal immigrants? While they don't pay taxes they give the United States almost free labour. Immigrants aren't coming over the borders to destroy the country. They don't pay taxes (We are talking about illegal ones), yes, but if that's the only complaint about immigrants, then it doesn't really make any sense because those could be easily fixed. And I still don't know what's so bad about "too many immigrants". Is it because a lot of them don't speak english? Because that's the only thing that I hate about illegal immigrants and normal immigrants too.
Because they smell like beans and enchiladas.




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Old 11-26-2009, 10:04 PM
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I see what you're saying and agree. It's an argument I've made before with others. But I don't see any other way to determine if we were successful there or not but to let them try and stand on their own.
But I mean, don't you think this is something that needed to be considered before we went into Iraq in the first place?

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Well, all I know is I don't buy into the crap about "war for oil" and other similar conspiracies. But maybe I'm not as educated on the situation as I think, so, please, enlighten me.

But I can't help but think that if 9/11 hadn't happened, we wouldn't be at war over there at all today.
No, we didn't go to Iraq for the oil. Yes, it was related to 9/11, but not because Saddam had anything to do with al-Qaeda. We basically went it to divide the Islamic world as a whole, and to put countries like Saudi Arabia in a position where they either had to be with us 100%, or not at all. And being pussies, they were drawn (involuntarily) closer to us, which meant that they could no longer get away with sponsoring jihadists.

It wasn't necessarily a bad idea in principle, but it was poorly planned and executed.
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