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01-20-2017, 06:25 PM
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I'm sorry but I look at this like a thumbnail version of the F-35.
In no way will the modular features ever be used by any a guy in a line unit unless it as a SF type unit. And those guys like Glock. And will keep their Glocks. For all that money I don't understand why we just didn't make the damn M-11 issue for the masses. Hell, I'm gonna be that guy longing for my Beretta when I finally have to give it up.
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01-20-2017, 07:36 PM
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Realistically, a firearm should be as simple as possible. A sidearm should just have no manual safety or a decocker. Just point and shoot and teach basic safety to the troops when handling them. A striker fire gun has a good trigger and is less problematic than a hammer fire gun
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01-22-2017, 09:47 AM
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01-23-2017, 03:11 AM
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You guys are missing the fact that if the frame gets all wore out and loose you can just toss it and get a new one with no hassle or anything, as it is not the serialized part and is fairly inexpensive. Also now retards will stop bitching about the slide mounted safety
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01-23-2017, 04:04 PM
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I also disagree that if you are issued a pistol, you're not expected to use it. I think the mindset is that it's for certain people in certain situations that it's better to have a gun and not need it, even if you are say a guy doing supplies on base and you're rifle is somewhere else, or you drive for a living. I mean, SF guys have sidearms and they are fully expected to use them in combat, but handguns are not the be all end all in any combat situation. If something goes bump in the night, I'm reaching for a bigger gun.
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01-24-2017, 06:47 AM
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In all seriousness I think it will be fine. Easy to maintain, simple in it's function, easy to teach personnel who have no prior experience with real firearms and ,one assumes, sturdy and reliable. Polymer pistols are the new reality and they're here to stay. For the Army to choose a polymer pistol says something. The Army resisted the trend for a long time. Hell I carry a Glock 19 on duty and I have no issues with it. When I retire my department will gift it to me and I'm a dyed in the wool blue steel and wood furniture kind of guy. Your average soldier (not Delta, SF or Rangers) doesn't really give a shit about what he/she carries as long as it goes bang when they need it and it isn't horrifically heavy.
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01-24-2017, 04:41 PM
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I think most troops who are more trained would probably carry it with the safety off since it was designed without one and practice their draw to make sure the safety is off. I know some people who do that with guns that have manual safeties. Maybe they can get permission to get ones without the safeties or remove them.
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01-25-2017, 12:22 AM
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01-25-2017, 02:42 PM
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The US Army did use a .38 at one point, but then they fought in the Spanish American war and realized the .38 suck ass. Quote:
I agree with that for the most part, which is why training is important. That's why the Marines are some of our best shooters. If you want to truly test a piece of equipment, give it to the Marines. They'll find a way to break it...on purpose.
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01-25-2017, 07:53 PM
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The .38 the military adopted as it's main pistol caliber was the .38 Long Colt, which was black powder and due to the design of the bullet tended to exit the barrel undersized
.38 Special has a pretty long history in the US military, with various revolvers chambered in it being substitute standards (off the top of my head, the US military has issued S&W .38 Hand Ejector, the S&W Victory, the S&W Model 10, Colt Commando snubs, Colt AND S&W patten M13 Aircrewmans, Ruger Service Sixes, S&W Model 12's, and S&W Model 15's). Also a loooooot of people that privately purchased sidearms (when one could get such a thing allowed) bought .38's, mostly Colt and S&W https://www.americanrifleman.org/art...ary-revolvers/ http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-rev...w-vietnam.html
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