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Old 05-31-2020, 06:14 PM
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Venting here.

Anger, frustration and disbelief. I and many other officers work hard at our jobs. We do the work within legal and ethical boundaries and work at connecting with members of our local communities. Then in just eight minutes it’s all thrown out of the window. It’s just exhausting and disappointing. I’ve been an officer for twenty years and, right now, I’m ready to retire. I’d turn in my papers tomorrow, but I can’t afford to that. So I will continue to do the work and hope that at least some of our younger officers (who have not yet been set in their ways) will learn from what has happened and adjust their behavior and tactics. I'm well aware of the many issues involved, but the police do the job in a fishbowl and we need to adjust how we do the work accordingly. All the armchair quarterbacks can do all the critiquing they want, but I and other officers are the ones who have to do the work. Those four officers in Minneapolis screwed up and that's all there is to it.

It's like we're living in some type of half-hearted ripoff of "The Stand". We have a highly contagious virus that is causing all types of disruption (though far removed from the death toll of Captain Trips), riots in our cities with outside agitators getting involved (see Randall Flagg) and cops and soldiers wearing protective masks and riot-gear firing flash-bangs, pepper-pellets, rubber-bullets and CS grenades at rioters and protesters. But we aren't getting Randall Flagg, Mother Abigail or 99.4% of the Human Race dying off. So some of the worst aspects of the story without any of the end of world, good battling evil aspects. Just stupidity, violence and destruction.

I really wish I could afford to retire. However I can't and this isn't the first time my morale has been in the dumps and it won't be the last time.

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This isn't about George Floyd's death anymore. The cop who killed him has been arrested and charged, which is what the protesters wanted, isn't it? So why haven't they stopped? Because now it's just about thugs and anarchists sowing chaos and disorder, that's why. I mean, I'm sure you saw the story about three cops beaten and dragged around by "protesters". If not, here it is. I can honestly say I now have no qualms about flashbangs, pepper balls, and tear gas being used on these thugs because they have it coming.

I haven't seen The Stand in years, so it rather brings to my mind the social unrest that preceded the fall of society in Mad Max's world. Somebody on another website even told me that all this was simply "Democracy at work." Can you believe that?
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…...Somebody on another website even told me that all this was simply "Democracy at work." Can you believe that?
Some people confuse anarchy with democracy. Yes I believe it.
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I wonder, have any of those idiots getting rowdy around the White House bothered to consider that breaching those gates will end with them getting mowed down by Secret Service CAT agents with M4s?
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I’ve been an officer for twenty years and, right now, I’m ready to retire.
It's hard right now, but there are many who still appreciate your service and the service of others like you.

According to the New York Times, the Minneapolis police department has been troubled for a while now. I don't know just how far the rot runs or if the NYT's assessment is completely correct, but what it describes is typical of a department that was just waiting to fall into controversy.
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I stand with you and all the good ones, too, Jcordell.

If they had any common sense, anyone still desiring peaceful protests should and will have gone home and disassociated themselves since their cause has been hijacked by extremists.
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According to the New York Times, the Minneapolis police department has been troubled for a while now. I don't know just how far the rot runs or if the NYT's assessment is completely correct, but what it describes is typical of a department that was just waiting to fall into controversy.
I am aware of past incidents involving the MPF. I guess that's one of the things that angers me. They've known (Minneapolis) for the past few years that they've had issues and yet the agency still authorizes the neck technique even though it's dangerous and looks like hell to the public. The bosses know things are edgy and yet they didn't get rid of that technique. Why? Now that is just one small thing, but it makes one wonder.

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Having seen interviews of so called protestors that are advocating the no justice no peace meaning literally an excuse to tear up the place. It's a communist thought saying they feel marginalized by the rich and they deserve to steal from them. It's an excuse to commit crime. It has nothing to with justice. Most people will protest peacefully but then there are those looking for a fight. These people are not intelligent. No foresight. Just savages.
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I'm more resigned now to the situation. Today I have to see about getting a trace search warrant for a phone and then complete a probable cause affidavit for a car theft. I also have to look into a case in which somebody has hacked into a woman's credit card account and done some serious shopping; she is still in physical control of her card ,though it has since been cancelled, and I have suggested that she freeze her credit. So the work continues and people are still calling into 911 despite all the yelling, looting, burning and finger pointing.

However I am glad (and so is my wife) that I am now a detective and walk around in plain clothes and drive a very generic Ford Escape. It's not even wired for lights and sirens. I wear my badge on a neck chain so it's not a big thing to just slip it inside of my shirt and I've taken to wearing slightly oversized shirts that hide my Glock. Until I identify myself I'm just another middle-aged bald guy with glasses. Totally unremarkable and anonymous. I'm short which is a plus as well. I am below many people's eyelines. Nothing says "COP" about me. I've been told I look like a guy who is a grocery store manager or perhaps an accountant. At this particular time and place nobody seems to be directing much hate towards accountants and grocery store managers. Of course there is always that wild card that might have a grudge against accountants for that time that he was in hot water with the IRS.
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I am aware of past incidents involving the MPF. I guess that's one of the things that angers me. They've known (Minneapolis) for the past few years that they've had issues and yet the agency still authorizes the neck technique even though it's dangerous and looks like hell to the public. The bosses know things are edgy and yet they didn't get rid of that technique. Why? Now that is just one small thing, but it makes one wonder.
It certainly does make one wonder how things got so bad in the first place with the MPF. Good to know you're more inconspicuous now, but I wouldn't be surprised if you had to go in and be a first responder soon with a violent incident.
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