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Several years later I finally got my British Contract Colt OP
Well it took several years longer than I was expecting, but I finally got the British Contract Colt Official Police (mfd. 1941) in 38/200 or 38 S&W with a 5" barrel. The finish isn't commercial grade, but I had the internals checked out by an old-time gunsmith and he advised that it's very clean and in excellent shape. Now all I have to do is get some ammo for it. I paid $400.00 for those who are interested. Colt made a little over 49,000 Official Police in 38/200 for England in 1940-1941. In contrast S&W made over 500,000 Military & Police models in the same caliber for England from 1940-1945. I would imagine this is a big reason why the British Contract OP isn't as common.
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Awesome wheelguns! I've always been jealous of your Heavy Duty, and now your British OP. Mine is pretty severely messed with. How's finding .38 S&W in the States these days? It's getting rough up here.
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That British OP was dumb luck. As you know I'm a police officer. Several years ago our Street Crimes Unit stopped a guy on Federal probation. That OP was in his car and criminals on probation and parole can't have guns. Weird. Anyway I got to look at it the very next day and I knew I had to have it. However the case was Federal and the Feds typically destroy guns after a case is adjudicated. I was sad. However for reasons that I wasn't made privy too time the Colt stayed with us. However it then sat in the evidence vault over at the county courthouse for several years. Finally early this year county cleaned out the vault and sent all the items no longer needed back to their various governmental organizations that they came from. About once a year my department sells firearms that are no longer needed for cases (and have no owners) to a gun dealer who in turn will sell pieces to officers. It's all legal by the way and a good source of income for my department. Plus the guns are sold by Federally licensed dealers instead of a police department. I tried to find the original owner. I had the ATF do a handsearch through records and I even called Colt and told them what I was doing. Colt told me it was shipped to the British Purchasing Commission in New York City in July 1941. There is no record of it after that. No importer stamp on it. The British OP's are very hard to find down here. 38 S&W is around, but it isn't real common. I'm going to order snapcaps for it (directly from the company since I'll never find 38 S&W snapcaps in the local stores) and I'll probably order a box or two through one of my local gunshops - or maybe Cabelas in Boise. Last edited by Jcordell; 10-12-2017 at 11:23 PM. |
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Good (and lucky!) story on that one. A little too common-sense a practice for up here. Cabelas up here dropped .38 S&W up here (foolishly since there are so many surplus S&Ws up here) and I took home the last case, but I have a lot of guns in that caliber...
I read once that the Brit OPs were mainly sent to the 8th Army in North Africa but don't know how true it is. |
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I do know that in the classic auto-biography The Hundred Days Of Lt. MacHorton by Ian MacHorton he specifically writes that he was issued a Colt revolver in 38/200 and a Thompson sub-machine gun. MacHorten was with the Chindits under Ord Wingate in Burma so that might back up the India-Burma info, but WWII was a big war and people and weapons were everywhere so who really knows. Last edited by Jcordell; 06-09-2015 at 09:50 PM. |
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There is certainly lots of photographic evidence for the S&W being widely issued in the army, and particularly in the armies of the dominions. We actually contracted directly with S&W for them and never adopted the Enfield at all, and while the Aussies made their own Enfields I've seen a heck of a lot more Aussie (and Kiwi) marked S&Ws. I wonder how popular the OPs would have been if they'd kept them in production? I always thought it odd that Britain never used the Colt Commando, it certainly seems like the Colt could have supplied two large military contracts at once if they were evening making Commandos to begin with.
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The more I read about Smith & Wesson and Colt the more I realize that Smith was just a better run company. The people running Colt never seemed to make the best decisions. That might of been the reason that Smith got the corner on revolvers during WWII. I'm firm believer that tens of thousands of men in the American military got their first exposure to revolvers during the war and that revolver was the S&W Victory model. There were other reasons behind Smith overtaking Colt in sales in the years following WWII of course, but I think a big one was the Victory model. Similar to how Americans took a liking to the bolt action rifle after WWI. Colt made a good revolver and the company's steel was supposedly a higher grade, but the management wasn't.
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