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Old 10-30-2009, 09:00 PM
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BTW, I realize it's kind of hearsay to say it, but...the very idea of this movie is laughable. I know this scenario is the fantasy of American gun owners everywhere, but face the facts, guys: America is China's biggest export customer, and China is America's biggest creditor. It would be economic and political suicide for China to invade the U.S. because their internal stability basically hinges on their economic relationship with us. All of China's crackpot Third World "allies" (from North Korea to Iran) put together could never take our place in their economy.

And of course, everyone knows that China is not a communist country anymore (except in name), so the "Red" in the title is irrelevant. If the title were going to reflect what China really is today, it should be something more like "Confucian/Han Pride Dawn", but I guess that wouldn't be politically correct. Anyway, Marxism (and socialism in general) is pretty much dead all around the world, and has been for the better part of 20 years, so y'all might as well accept that a "Red Dawn" is never going to happen, ever. A "Green Dawn", on the other hand...

Also, if you ever want to know how China might REALLY try to conquer us, read up on their tactics in cyber-warfare.
I always wanted to say that. Hell, even the original Red Dawn was kind of stupid. At least it was a good movie, though. Invading the US is just a retarded idea.
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:55 PM
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Actually, the Norinco Type-97 is even sold commercially here. Both standard and shorty versions. Not my cup of tea, but I've heard good thing.
You mean in CANADA where you're from.

For a moment I thought you were talking about the U.S. which would be a false statement since I know that Type 97s aren't available anywhere in the U.S.

I know that Canadians can still get stuff which we American cannot (at least without jumping through a million hoops). We can blame the ATF for a lot of our woes, but they're just doing the bidding of whatever administration comes down the pipe. What we need is Congressional action to reign them in, good luck of that ever happening.
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Old 10-31-2009, 12:52 AM
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Why is the Norinco 95 or type 97s banned in the US anyway and yet we can get other bullpup style rifles here? What's the point.
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Old 10-31-2009, 02:22 AM
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I always love it when guys say "Gee why don't you spend tens of thousands of dollars on obscure weapons that will rent once and never again. That's an smart use of your financial resources. " That's the primary reason American armorers don't use the newest stuff. Sure, if it will be rented many times, then of course. Also don't expect REAL versions of any of the recent Russian AKs, they will most likely all be build ups from receivers we already have in country.
I didn't mean to come across as naive, but how much does it typically cost to modify existing prop weapons to be more "modern" or "sci-fi" looking?
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:20 AM
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Why is the Norinco 95 or type 97s banned in the US anyway and yet we can get other bullpup style rifles here? What's the point.
What Imported Bullpup can you get (since 1989)? Name one. All of the bullpups in country are built here. A few got in in the 90s like the stilly Steyr USR with the 'thumbhole stock and 10 round magazine, but that was the only one and now ATF won't even allow THAT in.

So what new military style bullpup have you seen for sale in the U.S. that is an IMPORTED gun? It's a function of the non sporting clause of the import ban. That's why the only bullpups we can get here are US built ones or US licensed ones. As far as I know, no one licenses Chinese designs.
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Old 10-31-2009, 07:54 PM
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Actually, the Norinco Type-97 is even sold commercially here. Both standard and shorty versions. Not my cup of tea, but I've heard good thing.
Hmmm, that's really interesting. But don't you guys already have your own anti-assault rifle laws?

And yes, it does seem Canada gets the latest Chinese weapons in bulk. That certainly explains the QBZ-97s that Americans have seen in our TV shows and movies that were filmed in Canada.

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I always wanted to say that. Hell, even the original Red Dawn was kind of stupid. At least it was a good movie, though. Invading the US is just a retarded idea.
Yeah, I love the original as much as anyone, even if it was an absurd concept. But remaking "Red Dawn", 20 years after the Cold War ended and "Reds" ceased to exist, just seems to be pissing on the original's historical value (and yes, I do consider "Red Dawn" to be a film of enduring historical value).

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Old 10-31-2009, 11:53 PM
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So close to doing this in my neck of the woods, we have the 95 97 all ready to go!
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Old 10-31-2009, 11:59 PM
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So close to doing this in my neck of the woods, we have the 95 97 all ready to go!
Ah, so they are actually filming some of the movie in Canada? And Movie Armaments Group is supplying weapons for the show?
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Old 11-01-2009, 06:29 AM
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So close to doing this in my neck of the woods, we have the 95 97 all ready to go!
For the red dawn remake??

I was kind of disappointed when I saw the PLA soldier actors armed with AK-47 type rifles when in RL they have a weapon as unique looking as the QBZ 95.I was hoping to at least see a mock-up of the QBZ-95; though I'm not in the industry so what do I know.

Hopefully the action in the film is good.

-sorry for poor writing structure/grammar, I am tired

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Old 11-01-2009, 09:33 AM
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They should of made the invading country North Korea. It makes perfect sense. North Korea is a communist country runned by stupid facists who blow millions of dollars on nuclear weapons. If they made the invaders Al-Quaida or the taliban, that would just bring back the trauma 9/11 brought. The screenwriters must of thought that Chinia is still a red state and decided to make it the invaders.
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