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Old 10-05-2009, 01:17 AM
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I think the rifle ain't a Colt AR15 sporter. More like an M16A2. The shape and rear sight of the carrying handle/rear sight is a dead giveaway.
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Colt AR-15 was what user "Markit" labeled it as. I got all his smaller images replaced and a lot of new ones added. I'm also trying to read up on the actual shootout and put in the page.
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I think the rifle ain't a Colt AR15 sporter. More like an M16A2. The shape and rear sight of the carrying handle/rear sight is a dead giveaway.
You do know civilian-legal semi-auto versions of the M16A2 do exist, don't you?
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Old 10-05-2009, 03:17 AM
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Yeah there are several Colt Sporters that are built like A2s, as well as a dozen other A2 designs built by other companies. Could be any one of them.
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Here is a close up of the receiver. Maybe it'll help.
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Yeah there are several Colt Sporters that are built like A2s, as well as a dozen other A2 designs built by other companies. Could be any one of them.
I don't think the A2 version was called a "Sporter". The AR-15 that looked like an early M16 was called the Sporter 1 (SP1), and the M16A1 look-a-like (with forward assist) was called the Sporter II. But I thought the M16A2 look-a-like was just called the AR-15 A2 (or the AR-15 Government Model HBAR for the version with the Match barrel).

That's what my Gun Digests from the 80s say, at least...
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Here is a close up of the receiver. Maybe it'll help.
Definitely an A2-style receiver. The question is whether it gets fired on auto or not. And even if it fired on auto, that means it's one of the Hollywood "Franken-M16s" (an A2 upper on an A1 lower, or some other full-auto lower).
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Definitely an A2-style receiver. The question is whether it gets fired on auto or not. And even if it fired on auto, that means it's one of the Hollywood "Franken-M16s" (an A2 upper on an A1 lower, or some other full-auto lower).
I only rented the movie and had to return it. That rifle was only used in that scene. Both Platt (Soul) and Matix (Gross) seemed to fire in burst during that scene in the woods.
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I don't think the A2 version was called a "Sporter". The AR-15 that looked like an early M16 was called the Sporter 1 (SP1), and the M16A1 look-a-like (with forward assist) was called the Sporter II. But I thought the M16A2 look-a-like was just called the AR-15 A2 (or the AR-15 Government Model HBAR for the version with the Match barrel).

That's what my Gun Digests from the 80s say, at least...

There was a run of A2 rifles called Sporter HBARs, but you are right about the Sporter I and II.The AR-15 A2s that I've seen were with 715 uppers, but I think I came across one with the A2 upper once too.

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There was a run of A2 rifles called Sporter HBARs, but you are right about the Sporter I and II.The AR-15 A2s that I've seen were with 715 uppers, but I think I came across one with the A2 upper once too.
Gun Digest 1990 says that the 715/C7 look-a-like model was called the "AR-15 A2 Sporter II". It's basically a budget version of the A2 model - by subtracting the A2-style rear sight, it was sold for $70 less than the regular A2 model, and $120 less than the HBAR. There were also corresponding Carbine models.

Also, the other models are called, "AR-15 A2 Government Model" (the M16A2 look-a-alike) and "AR-15 A2 Government Model HBAR" (same gun with the match-grade barrel).

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