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Old 02-16-2011, 09:34 PM
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I found this lot for sale for approx. 5000 US in Istanbul.

The 7.65mm Webley seems interesting.
The C-96 is well taken care of but unfortunately engraved. - not my thing-



The others are a Velo Dog, a Nagant, a 6.35mm St Etienne and the last one I can not tell ( a little help?)

What do you guys think? Is this a good deal?
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Old 02-16-2011, 09:40 PM
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seeing how much more expensive guns are there it definitely seems reasonable.
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:37 PM
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The one on the bottom left is a Pieper 1915, or possibly a Spanish copy, in either 8mm Pieper or 8mm Lebel. The one on the right isn't a Nagant, not with that fixed extractor rod - it's a Chamelot-Delvigne type revolver, looks alot like a Swiss Schmidt 1882 but isn't.

Depending on when the Mauser was engraved and if there's any kind of documentation, it could be worth quite a bit, or less than a plain one. The St. Etienne, in Canada / the US is worth maybe $500, the Webley MP has had the grips replaced so about $600, the Belgian Bulldog $200 at most if it's functional (most arent). The Pieper is tough to price - it cetainly looks like a Spanish copy, which is worth maybe $300, but I've never seen one so nicely finished. The Chamelot-Delvigne type is a mystery - without knowing exactly what it is, and taking into account some of the parts look pretty crude, maybe $150. Of course prices in Canada / US are so completely different from Turkey I can't really offer much useful advice, except to say it's an interesting set of guns and if you want them enough to pay the asking price then I never worry too much about the blue book value.

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Old 02-16-2011, 11:33 PM
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Here's some better pictures:






I don't care much for these revolvers.
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I'd buy them, but that's just me
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Old 02-16-2011, 11:53 PM
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The Broomhandle has been refinished for sure, so it's definately post-factory, and it doesn't look all that old to me. In fact for me the only two guns there that pass the initial "sniff test" with me are the St Etienne (in 8mm, incidentally, not 6.35) and the Webley, and I'd want a closer look at either. I'd be interested in the unknown revolver as a curiosity if I could get it cheap enough, but I'm starting to suspect it's a blacksmith made gun and I definately wouldn't shoot it. My gut reaction here is pass.
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The Broomhandle has been refinished for sure, so it's definately post-factory, and it doesn't look all that old to me. In fact for me the only two guns there that pass the initial "sniff test" with me are the St Etienne (in 8mm, incidentally, not 6.35) and the Webley, and I'd want a closer look at either. I'd be interested in the unknown revolver as a curiosity if I could get it cheap enough, but I'm starting to suspect it's a blacksmith made gun and I definately wouldn't shoot it. My gut reaction here is pass.
My thought exactly.
I'll wait until I find that very special pistol.
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