Guns you think are just a bad idea.

k9870 · #1 11-18-2009, 02:33 PM

Just saw that kahr makes a .40 caliber version of the pm9, the pm40. The PM9 seems like a great CC/BUG, but a palm sizedd .40? must kick like a beast and be impossible to control. Also, the waltehr pps in .40, all the tiny guns in big calibers make no sense.

Clutch · #2 11-19-2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by k9870

Just saw that kahr makes a .40 caliber version of the pm9, the pm40. The PM9 seems like a great CC/BUG, but a palm sizedd .40? must kick like a beast and be impossible to control. Also, the waltehr pps in .40, all the tiny guns in big calibers make no sense.

My uncle owned a .40S&W Kahr. Nice feeling gun - it fit my hand fine. But Jesus Christ, .40 is way too big a bullet for a gun like that. After assuming a well-coached grip that I considered very decent and taking good aim at a condemned soda can, I promptly planted two rounds firmly into North Carolina dirt. I gave the gun back, not wanting to burn through all of his ammunition just trying to get one round on target.

Oh, and they're loud as all hell.

k9870 · #3 11-21-2009, 04:34 AM

The pm40 isnt even big enough for your whole hand is its problem, i cant see firing a 40 where only a few fingers get on the grip.

MT2008 · #4 11-24-2009, 02:49 PM

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My uncle owned a .40S&W Kahr. Nice feeling gun - it fit my hand fine. But Jesus Christ, .40 is way too big a bullet for a gun like that. After assuming a well-coached grip that I considered very decent and taking good aim at a condemned soda can, I promptly planted two rounds firmly into North Carolina dirt. I gave the gun back, not wanting to burn through all of his ammunition just trying to get one round on target.

Oh, and they're loud as all hell.

You're in North Carolina? Or just your uncle?

Spartan198 · #5 11-24-2009, 06:22 PM

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You're in North Carolina? Or just your uncle?

Or he imported a crate of dirt from North Carolina to shoot at.

Excalibur · #6 11-24-2009, 07:22 PM

Back on topic, I've always thought a short barrel AR-15 was good for close quarters, but then, I see barrels that are just too short to the point where they can only be used in doors and when you're that close inside a building, wouldn't a shotgun be much better or a pistol?

k9870 · #7 11-24-2009, 09:00 PM

i saw a 5.5 inch barreled ar-15 upper.

Spartan198 · #8 11-25-2009, 07:25 AM

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i saw a 5.5 inch barreled ar-15 upper.

I saw something similar in a book I have.

Clutch · #9 11-25-2009, 05:31 AM

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You're in North Carolina? Or just your uncle?

I live in Maryland; he's in Virginia. The shooting was done at some family property in NC several years ago. I also tried out an over/under 12 gauge of his (don't know the exact model, unfortunately) and did much better with that. This was a shocker to me - my ears rang a lot less after using the 12-gauge than they did firing the .40.