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Old 05-31-2010, 07:00 PM
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I'm suprised that no one has talked about how, given the chance, Rommel would have busted Hitler's dome wide open
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Reality, as we all know, is much more complex than that.
Yeah, it is. There are two sides to every coin, as the saying goes.
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Old 08-26-2010, 05:09 PM
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I agree with not referring to Germans as Nazis, but I went out of my way to avoid referring to SS troops as soldiers when I capped "Schindler's List." The SS was declared a criminal organization after the war, their members were denied pensions (until they successfully sued the West German government) and former SS men are STILL being kicked out the US even today. Soldiers serve their country. These men served the Nazi party. Can we try to enforce that in across IMFDb?
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Old 08-26-2010, 05:44 PM
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I agree with not referring to Germans as Nazis, but I went out of my way to avoid referring to SS troops as soldiers when I capped "Schindler's List." The SS was declared a criminal organization after the war, their members were denied pensions (until they successfully sued the West German government) and former SS men are STILL being kicked out the US even today. Soldiers serve their country. These men served the Nazi party. Can we try to enforce that in across IMFDb?
But that's just people exacting political revenge. Men serving in the Waffen SS fought just like soldiers on the Eastern Front and during D-Day. You're not being 100% accurate. They WERE soldiers, albeit, soldiers who were given odious tasks. Entire Waffen SS divisions were lost fighting in Russia. What are they? Busboys?
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This reminds of what our history teacher in secondary school did. He always accurately referred to all parts of the German military branch before, during and after World War 2 by name. Luftwaffe was Luftwaffe, a Wehrmacht Soldier was a Wehrmacht Soldier.
What I mean to say is, if possible the writer of an article should be as accurate as possible. A great benefit of doing the necessary research is that anachronisms and other details like wrong equipment can be pointed out to the reader. It adds to the quality of a page and guarantees that no one will be offended. Watching Wehrmacht soldiers with FG-42 parachute into Alaska with Russian helmets and French camouflage uniforms probably isn't that obvious at first
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But that's just people exacting political revenge. Men serving in the Waffen SS fought just like soldiers on the Eastern Front and during D-Day. You're not being 100% accurate. They WERE soldiers, albeit, soldiers who were given odious tasks. Entire Waffen SS divisions were lost fighting in Russia. What are they? Busboys?
Okay, that's fair. And the US is just deporting former camp personnel. But in the context of Schindler's List, where they're pulling people out of their homes, shooting people on the street and in their hospital beds, I doubt you can call that soldiering.
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Okay, that's fair. And the US is just deporting former camp personnel. But in the context of Schindler's List, where they're pulling people out of their homes, shooting people on the street and in their hospital beds, I doubt you can call that soldiering.
For the first six thousand years of human history that was the definition of being a soldier, and in many countries it continues to be.
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Not all German soldiers are evil. Have you guys read All Quiet On the Western Front? Wait a minute, take book takes place in World War I, a war that has no video games or movies based on it.
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Sure, there were MANY German soldiers and officers that did NOT like the way Hitler was running their country and many had tried to kill him and failed. It's the mythos that has developed after WWII that has made the Germans of WWII into an evil archetype that represents the whole of Germany at the time.
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Old 08-29-2010, 09:11 AM
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Everyday people spouts the term "Nazi" when describing anything to do with the Third Reich, but "Nazi" was a Political Party, not a military force. The Heer (German Army) and the Waffen SS (as well as the Luftwaffe, Kriegsmarine, etc) were all military forces that answered to the government in power, which was held by the Nazi Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterparte, abbreviated as NSDAP). Plus the fact that many Germans were not Party members, one cannot ascribe the term to all Germans in the armed forces of the time.
I agree with most of that, but the SS was actually part of the Nazi party, even before they were in power.
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