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I'm tempted to ask to trade; I want a 3913 as a carry piece, but I wuvs my 459
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Made a post in here, forum says I made a post here, and the forum doesn't show me the friggin' post
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The 3913 is not dimensionally different enough from full size S&W autos to yield a real world difference in concealment or comfort of carry, unless you've determined that less than a half of an inch off the length and height will matter. How do you want to carry it?
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Aside from the half inch length off the front and the grip, the other reductions are roughly 2/10ths of an inch all around, including the grip width. The window where the 3913 would be permissible where the full size gun would not be is very, very small, and if the full size gun doesn't work when the 3913 does, it's as simple as changing your wardrobe or getting a better holster. I will concede that perhaps the narrowing of the grip combined with the narrowing of the slide stop may reduce the pressure of the slide stop digging into someone carrying the gun, but this does not address the concealment issues that will still be present. You have to be a very particular person with a very discriminatory body type to where 2/10ths of an inch matters with regard to a gun being seen or not. I've just come to understand that the "compact" versions of guns are not much smaller than their full size counterparts, and will typically bear the same issues as their bigger brothers. In carrying my P228 off and on, and trying out new methods of carry, I see how it fails in a lot of the ways that its full size counterpart would. I still like it because it's cool, but I still think a P226 would conceal the the exact same level of adequacy, and give me 2 extra rounds. |
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If you are going somewhere where you need a full size double stack then fine, but this is not the case the majority of the time. To me it seems that an 8 round mag will be more than sufficient for most self-defence situations, and carrying something over and above this is just wasted effort. |
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I want a 3913 simply because I want a friggin' 3913. If I absolutely have to justify why I'd want to carry it over my 459, I guess it's because the 3913 would be easier to shoot, weighs less, has better sights, doesn't have some weird blue/black finish that I'm worried about rusting, and is more the size I prefer. I don't care if you want to carry around a full sized/"compact" handgun; I prefer something a little smaller that is not a revolver or a pocket pistol.
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Using percentages doesn't change the fact that it's still 2/10ths of an inch off the grip, which won't realistically make a difference. Half an inch of muzzle at least coming down from a full size to a compact, won't make a difference in IWB or Appendix modes in my experience, unless you are really tall. I will admit my bias with regard to double stack handguns, but it's not unfounded. More rounds is always better in a gunfight, big or small. I also don't like rationalizing carrying smaller guns with less rounds because statistics say that gunfights typically involve X rounds. For one, you don't want to give credence to GCAs who what to ban high capacity magazines on the grounds that SD shootings don't require multiple rounds, according to those statistics. More to the point, though, you don't keep an umbrella for a drizzle, you keep it for hard rain, because that's when you really need it, cause that's when you're gonna get wet. Likewise, you should carry the biggest, most combat effective weapon on your person that you can, because you don't know how many rounds it will take to end your altercation. In short, don't nerf preparedness without just cause (and statistics are not just cause). There are good reasons to carry a smaller gun, though. I carry my snub more often than the SIG because the Florida heat makes me sweat like hell and keeps me from wearing proper cover garments. The snub is stainless and hides perfectly in my pocket. If it's between two automatics of roughly the same size though, I say pick a gun smaller than both, or go for the bigger one, cause there isn't any realistic concealment difference between the full size or the compact in my experience. Quote:
And for the record, the 3913 is technically a "compact". It's single stack, but it's dimensions put it in the same bracket as my P228. You are, in fact, looking at carrying a compact gun, it;s just slimmer (which, in my experience, doesn't matter, as I've said). Do what you feel, though, but I have put in my two cents for what it's worth. |
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I already got one o' them 6906's
Anyhow, I'm looking at getting a shotgun again because my father wants to trade me one for the Redhawk (which I only have because he needed a shotgun for a family friend and I was willing to trade the Winchester 1300 I had for it just to help him out). I don't really have any problem with trading again, since I reckon I'll get way more use out of a 12 gauge than a big-ass .44 |
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