My First Pistol

[AdAstra2009]

I've been taught that it's best to pull back on the slide when reloading so that you can verify that a round is actually being chambered as oppose to using the slide stop release lever.

[zackmann08]

Originally Posted by Kirill

Hey guys, just a quick question.
Firstly I've never handle any semi auto pistol in my life, just the m16 and mp5 mostly, so bear with me.....

Assuming a 1911 has no magazine and the slide stop is hooked to the slide:
some press down the slide stop after inserting a magazine to chamber a round,
while others rack the slide back and release to chamber a round.

is this purely self preference or are there reasons behind each one?

like example, me being in the law enforcement reserves, our hk mp5 instructors
always told us to cock, hook, reload and release. instead of reload and cock.
they claim it increases the chance of feeding malfunction.

How are you "law enforcement reserves" and you have never handled a semi-auto pistol?!?!

[Excalibur]

Originally Posted by zackmann08

How are you "law enforcement reserves" and you have never handled a semi-auto pistol?!?!

I was going to ask that too.

Any form of military anywhere in the world should have a familiarization course in handguns depending on who gets one when deployed. But LEO everywhere are always issued with pistols, semi auto or some countries still issue revolvers. How is it that you can be in a "Law Enforcement Reserves" without any courses in handguns. What country's law enforcement only have M16s and MP5s?

That aside

to answer your question.

Pressing the slide stop or racking the slide when reloading depends on personal preference and your gun. I would recommend in training both style for different handguns. Guns like Glocks and stock 1911s have the slide stop far away from the right hand so you would need to really stretch, or push down hard to get it down, so it would be best to rack. Some guns like my XDM have the slide release very close and when I reload, I simply press down. It depends on your training. A lot of LEO instructors in America teaches to rack the slide because of gross motor skill. In stress, grabbing and pulling a large object is easier to train into a man than muscle memory of pressing a button. And the correct method for racking the slide is to NOT slingshot, but to do over hand and pull straight back

[Excalibur]

Originally Posted by zackmann08

How are you "law enforcement reserves" and you have never handled a semi-auto pistol?!?!

I was going to ask that too.

Any form of military anywhere in the world should have a familiarization course in handguns depending on who gets one when deployed. But LEO everywhere are always issued with pistols, semi auto or some countries still issue revolvers. How is it that you can be in a "Law Enforcement Reserves" without any courses in handguns. What country's law enforcement only have M16s and MP5s?

That aside

to answer your question.

Pressing the slide stop or racking the slide when reloading depends on personal preference and your gun. I would recommend in training both style for different handguns. Guns like Glocks and stock 1911s have the slide stop far away from the right hand so you would need to really stretch, or push down hard to get it down, so it would be best to rack. Some guns like my XDM have the slide release very close and when I reload, I simply press down. It depends on your training. A lot of LEO instructors in America teaches to rack the slide because of gross motor skill. In stress, grabbing and pulling a large object is easier to train into a man than muscle memory of pressing a button

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jm4-...feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJDp6x3FHsQ

[AdAstra2009]

Originally Posted by Excalibur

But LEO everywhere are always issued with pistols, semi auto or some countries still issue revolvers. How is it that you can be in a "Law Enforcement Reserves" without any courses in handguns. What country's law enforcement only have M16s and MP5s?

Just playing devil's advocate but there are actually a lot of law enforcement agencies where police are not issued handguns or any firearms.

[Excalibur]

Originally Posted by AdAstra2009

Just playing devil's advocate but there are actually a lot of law enforcement agencies where police are not issued handguns or any firearms.

If you are thinking about the UK, yes they have unarmed cops there cause they are dumb.

If you are thinking about China, they have for the most part been arming pretty much all their cops and even those that were once unarmed with guns. Say what you want about China, but their police aren't unarmed. Their traffic cops are packing.

[AdAstra2009]

UK police
New Zealand Police
Norway Police
Ireland Police
Cook Islands Police
Falkland Islands Police
Pitcairn Island Police
Iceland Police

Also a lot of college police in the US are not armed.

[Kirill]

Originally Posted by zackmann08

How are you "law enforcement reserves" and you have never handled a semi-auto pistol?!?!

Welcome to Singapore. The reserves are mostly conscripts and the main firearm is a Taurus .38 revolver. I was borned there so each year I got to go back there for a short amount of time to serve

Originally Posted by AdAstra2009

I've been taught that it's best to pull back on the slide when reloading so that you can verify that a round is actually being chambered as oppose to using the slide stop release lever.

Ahh that answers my question... I was told by a friend to check out "art of dynamic handgun" video. there were alot of interesting things they did.

Originally Posted by Excalibur

I was going to ask that too.

Any form of military anywhere in the world should have a familiarization course in handguns depending on who gets one when deployed. But LEO everywhere are always issued with pistols, semi auto or some countries still issue revolvers. How is it that you can be in a "Law Enforcement Reserves" without any courses in handguns. What country's law enforcement only have M16s and MP5s?

That aside

to answer your question.

Pressing the slide stop or racking the slide when reloading depends on personal preference and your gun. I would recommend in training both style for different handguns. Guns like Glocks and stock 1911s have the slide stop far away from the right hand so you would need to really stretch, or push down hard to get it down, so it would be best to rack. Some guns like my XDM have the slide release very close and when I reload, I simply press down. It depends on your training. A lot of LEO instructors in America teaches to rack the slide because of gross motor skill. In stress, grabbing and pulling a large object is easier to train into a man than muscle memory of pressing a button. And the correct method for racking the slide is to NOT slingshot, but to do over hand and pull straight back

Good tip! I'll remember that!

[Kirill]

Originally Posted by Excalibur

If you are thinking about the UK, yes they have unarmed cops there cause they are dumb.

If you are thinking about China, they have for the most part been arming pretty much all their cops and even those that were once unarmed with guns. Say what you want about China, but their police aren't unarmed. Their traffic cops are packing.

And seriously guys? Which unit is that???

[Excalibur]

Originally Posted by Kirill

Ahh that answers my question... I was told by a friend to check out "art of dynamic handgun" video. there were alot of interesting things they did.



Good tip! I'll remember that!

Those 2 youtube links I posted should help