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Saturday night special means cheap gun. Doesn't matter what type.
Revovlers are common in PDs as a backup gun, many J frames take this place. Smith and Wesson and charter arms making some very light .38s. And bad guys can aquire nice semiautos but only a few will, they're not rich and can't just rake out cash for one. A G17 is a status symbol for them. As for quick reload, moon clips are actually incredibly fast if you know how to use them. |
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I know cops carry snubs as back up guns but I'm talking about service revolvers. Hardly any PDs issue revolvers as the officer's main gun.
And I know moon clips are very fast (I've seen Jerry Miculek shoot), but try loading flat head wad-cutters into a revolver quickly. The flat tips make it as hard to load them as trying to load empty shells in. SNS is commonly used to define revolvers but autos apparrently enter the class too based on the definitions at urbandictionary.com.
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SWAT entry men holding the shield also use revolvers, as there were problems with an auto's lside hitiing the shield causing jams. I know there not as common as semis, but you expect to see a few.
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I've seen SWAT guys use autos with shields too. They just have to hold the shield a certain way so the slide doesn't hit the shield.
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A criminal will use anything he can get his hands on. They don't know the difference between a two-five and a Desert Eagle 99 percent of the time, they just know that they have a gun to kill someone with if they choose to. Fuckers, the lot of 'em.
Also, according to some websites, the NYPD allows carry of a S&W Model 64 if you've been on the force for some time. If you're that old, you probably don't know how to use anything else besides a wheelgun. I believe Michigan State Police and Mass Staties allow revolvers too. Last edited by Yournamehere; 03-18-2009 at 11:47 PM. |
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A lot of departments allow quality weapons if you can qualify, i've seen plenty of police without standard issue.
As for crimianls, I want to see a movie where they all have ravens and hi-points. |
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Also, I live in Texas and I regularly see "gangsta"-type dudes (mostly Latinos) come into my local FFL when I'm there. Most of the time, they ask for something pretty specific - like a "Glock Fo-tay", or a "Ruger Fo-Five". A few weeks ago, while I was shooting my P226 on the range, there were some Asian thug dudes (Koreans, I think) who had rented the AR-15 and were trying it out. I remember one of them even shot some pretty decent groups, too. |
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Remember that Steve's in California. Outside of the LAPD, there aren't that many departments that issue the Beretta 92F anymore. Glock accounts for something like 60% of the domestic LE market, SIG-Sauer takes up most of the rest.
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LAPD has I believe three authorized manufacturers that can be used for standard issue Beretta, Glock and Smith and Wesson. LAPD Metro SWAT has Kimber 1911. LA County Sheriff still has Beretta and PDs around Southern California use autos of different makes or calibers. I have worked with or met officers from Sacramento to San Diego and I have not seen a revolver used as a primary weapon on a active duty officer for years.
It's funny how this went from How BFA's work to the use of revolvers on film. |
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Then one of the guys loads the magazine in (It bugged me how he didn't slap the back of the magazine to set the bullets) and racked the charging handle. He aims, pulls the trigger, and the gun clicks. He racks the action again and I notice no dud round flies out. I walk over and ask if I can see the gun. He complies and hands it to me. First I remove the mag and set the rounds because that's how I roll. Then I loaded the magazine in, pressed it in so it was FULLY in the gun, then racked the charging handle and gave it back. The guy could see I knew my shit and offered me some trigger time. I made the mistake of not wearing ear protection. After three rounds I heard nothing but ringing! Then I reloaded the magazine and did it PROPERLY, which they finally realized was the correct manner. I got to shoot two more rounds and his friend got to shoot three. It was a fun gun but it is probably stuffed in a closet somewhere, still uncleaned from its last firing, since I can assume he was that type of shooter. Quote:
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